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London to Belgium to Amsterdam OR in reverse

While planning our trip to London, we've decided to add 5 days to include a quick side trip to Belgium and Amsterdam - the trains make it so easy! (This is for Sept)

Initially I thought we'd start in London (because it appears to be cheaper to fly into London and out of Amsterdam), but doing it the opposite way, has benefits too. Would love thoughts on our options.

A brief outline for reference: (We can start in London or in Amsterdam)
5 nights in London (3 days to putz around London, with a day trip to Bath and an afternoon to visit Windsor)
2 nights in the Cotswolds (to do a little hiking - no rental car, just public transpo and hired care if needed)
2 nights in Belgium (Brussels or Brugge)
3 nights in Amsterdam

Ok...which would you recommend and why?
1) If we started in London - the day we leave the Cotswolds, we'd take the train into London's Paddington Station, scoot over to St. Pancras Station and get the Eurostar into Brussels. We could base ourselves there for two nights - the next day heading to Brugge and maybe stopping in Ghent on the way back to Brussels. Then head to Amsterdam after that.

OR
2) Would it be better to begin our trip in Amsterdam? If we begin in Amsterdam, we can take the train to Brugge (vs Brussels) and spend two nights there instead. On the way to London, we could drop our bags in a locker at the train station, have breakfast or lunch in Brussels, stroll thru the Grand Market and then continue on to London. (Thinking if we want to see theatre in London, we'd be on the better side of jet lag to be able to stay awake too, if the London part is on the back end.)

Thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated! Thank you!

Posted by
397 posts

Go the way first with the cheaper most convenient flight. Don't wait any longer on settling that first.

The longer you wait the more ridiculously expensive the Eurostar monopoly train to cross the channel will be and less choice of the best seats

Posted by
778 posts

If you have no strong personal preference for either option then price out both and go with whatever is most convenient schedule wise (for your air, train and activity choices) and budget wise. In Belgium, I personally would prefer overnighting in Brugge rather than Brussels.

Posted by
922 posts

I don’t think there is anything magic about the order. I would choose based on cost, staying awake for the theater, where the weekend falls for your trip (if that makes a difference), museum closure days (if this applies). any other personal preferences.

I would guess that if you choose to start w Amsterdam, you would go to the Cotswolds before London.

Sounds like a nice trip.

Posted by
77 posts

Thanks for the insights!

Pat, I'd prefer to spend out two nights in Belgium in Brugge too - but was wondering if it would make the travel day too long. We could just pop our suitcases in a locker in the Brussels train station, have lunch or dinner and then jump back on the train and end the day in Brugge.

And...thanks for the reminder about getting the Eurostar tixs sooner for a better price.

Posted by
889 posts

I'm with Pat. Stay overnight in Bruges. Especially if it's 2 nights. You'll enjoy the town so much more in the evening when the daytrippers have left.

If airfare is negligible in either direction, I'd look at schedules. Can you get a nonstop coming home from either city?

Posted by
77 posts

Hi Jean, yes, I can get non-stop both ways.

And thank you for validating the 2 nights in Brugge.

Posted by
1426 posts

Brugge is the way to go. A stop in charming Ghent is also encouraged. I'd start in Amsterdam.

Posted by
77 posts

Also, thank you for the heads up about booking Eurostar tickets as soon as we are solid on dates! Learned we'll need to be there at least 90 min to 2 hours before our train leaves to get thru immigration...so I'm factoring that in and may switch Cotswolds days around a bit to make that easier.

Thank you all again.

Posted by
889 posts

Rebecca, when you book your Eurostar reservation, your ticket will show what time to check-in. For my trip this past March, I had a 75 minute check-in.

Posted by
3298 posts

I've done a similar route (London-Brussels-Amsterdam) and for me it really would depend on favorable flights. Most Amsterdam-USA flights for the West Coast leave in the early morning and that airport can be a disaster in the morning hours sometimes (but not always).

I'd land on your itinerary as quickly as possible as Eurostar gets more expensive the closer you get to your travel dates and depending on day of the week you may have less options. If you want to visit the Anne Frank House and your travel dates are in early September you need to pay attention as you tickets for then go on sale very soon (search the forum there are many, many posts about how to time it correctly).

Posted by
8398 posts

I trust you saw that discounted Eurostar tickets tend to be non-changeable, but they do have a lot of fare options. Did you see that hours favored by business travelers cost more?

Everyone has their own travel style, but your itinerary does have a lot of transfer time for every destination. You might want to make a list, add them up, and be sure you're comfortable with it. (I have done Eurostar round-trip from Antwerp (Brussels) to London twice, when my wife was working in Antwerp. One time there was an accident on the French section of tracks, and my return (and everyone else's) was delayed about 8 hours. Luckily, they held the last train to Antwerp from Brussels.)

Posted by
77 posts

Thanks Tim, yes, I saw Eurostar's options and did note that the 'peak' travel times for business were considerably more. Since we'll need to make sure and give ourselves time to get through immigration before getting on the train to Belgium (and have that cushion if something pops us), I think I'll give us 4 days in London, then 2 in the Cotswolds, THEN spend 1 evening back in London, so we can be up early for the train to Brugge. I don't mind that one nighter....and by making that adjustment, it affords us flexibility to spend a bit more of the afternoon enjoying the Cotswolds or head back early to London.

After looking at prices and availability, it definitely appears to be more cost effective to start in London and end in Amsterdam.

Posted by
889 posts

Rebecca, if your looking for a clean, comfortable and quiet hotel in London for your 1 night before your Eurostar train, I can recommend the Premier Inn St. Pancras. We booked a premium plus room with King bed, wonderful walk in shower and very quiet. We didn't try their breakfast, but our room had a coffee maker and fridge, so we picked up breakfast goodies at the nearby Pret. No charm, but so convenient for the train.

Posted by
35365 posts

I hear fear of missing the Eurostar train because of border facilities. Don't panic. Your ticket will give you the time you need to be there - use that. They know how loaded they will be and how long you need.

At the moment, check your ticket because it may change, for all except the very most expensive tickets the recommended time is 75 minutes, an hour and a quarter. If you arrive way early you won't be able to check in until your train opens for check in and you'll just stand around.

Posted by
77 posts

Thank you again for all the insights and suggestions. Very appreciated.