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London to Belgium

As most on this site, I am an experience world traveler. I have an upcoming trip to London that is not my first. I am considering a side trip over to Belgium. From London my research shows that I can go by train or plane. I'd prefer train. With train travel, it appears that I can be there even before I get my luggage checked at the airport. Plus, I am very familiar with train travel in Europe.

What I need help with is the specifics of what, when, where, and how of getting from London to Brussels.

I appreciate your help.

Posted by
17977 posts

You'd be taking the Eurostar from London to Belgium.

It is a little different than taking any other train in Europe. Read the rules and procedure carefully so you understand.

https://www.eurostar.com/rw-en

Be aware that check in time at St. Pancras in London is no less than 75 minutes before departure although I would make it 90. You go through immigration and customs prior to getting on the train in both directions. This way, when you arrive, you just get off the train and go about your day.

I corrected my typo mistake of check in time.

Posted by
35827 posts

stick to the recommended by the company check in times. Everything happens before you board the train - security, and two sets of border controls, British and French

Don't try to cut the time.... that can be an expensive and time wasting error.

Posted by
1097 posts

Book early for the best prices.

Last time I went London to Brussels by train, the recommended check-in time was 90 minutes ahead. More recently they’ve recommended 70 minutes. You go through passport control and immigration at London St Pancras hence the amount of time needed.

Other than that, it’s very comfortable and civilised. Second class is very comfortable. I tend to buy food at St Pancras M&S before joining the immigration queues, for price and choice.

Posted by
8524 posts

There has been some chatter about Eurostar losing their exclusive right to offer this product, but that hasn't happened yet. In fact, Eurostar has taken over former Thalys services.

The train goes only to one of the 3 Brussels downtown stations, Midi/Zuid. But your ticket allows you one local train (not city subway ... ) trip to Centraal or Noord. Those local trains are very frequent at normal times, and unreserved.

Posted by
1673 posts

There are a few private operators planning to offer competing services on the line but they won't start until week into next year at the earliest. And there may not be services to Brussels anyway.

Posted by
2043 posts

“The train goes only to one of the 3 Brussels downtown stations, Midi/Zuid. But your ticket allows you one local train (not city subway ... ) trip to Centraal or Noord.”

This indeed used to be the case, but not any more. From December 15, 2024 onwards, Eurostar tickets to Brussels stopped being valid in the entire Brussels train zone. You therefore need to buy another ticket if you want to take the train from Brussels Midi/South/Zuid to Brussels central or any other train station.
Source; https://help.eurostar.com/faq/uk-en/question/I-ve-bought-a-ticket-to-Brussels-Midi-Zuid-can-I-use-it-to-travel-to-another-station-in-the-city

Posted by
1350 posts

What I did was Eurostar to Lille, and rented a car from there. If you only want to visit cities, then yes, trains are fantastic in Belgium. But if you want to visit battlefields or countryside, a car is very useful. I had the most delightful drive from Bruges to Zeebrugge and up the coast along the beaches to Breskens in the Netherlands.

Posted by
8524 posts

Dutch_traveler, thank you very much for the important correction.

I just realized that the OP said "Belgium", not "Brussels". So he/she might consider the "Any Belgian Station" add-on to Eurostar, if that is still available, if he's immdiately going beyond Brussels. It saves the trouble of buying another ticket, if not that much money for a nearby destination. Note that there tend to be around five trains an hour on the corridor between Bruges/Ostend and Brussels, in the central part of the day. All unreserved. Some posters here have reported success using American credit cards in Belgian train ticket machines.

I'm sure there is a taxi stand at Brussels Midi, as well as a subway station. I assumed he might be going to Centraal, for either Grand Place, or the mass of museums and other sites nearby. I have not been to Brussels in 10 years, but I should note that some posters consider the area around (.... outside) Brussels Midi to be less safe than, say, around Centraal Station. But as a New Yorker who knows how safe NYC is among American cities, I am reluctant to repeat hearsay as if it were a fact!

Posted by
83 posts

Frank> Thanks for you input on this topic. I found out the hard way that the 90 minute depart times and the passport process added a lot of time to my trip. So much so that we arrived late afternoon and had to spend another day. But I learn from my mistakes. I took the train from Brugge to Brussels and flew back to Longon. Only 142 Euro/person and 1/3 the travel time. Sometimes the cost of convenience is worth the price. Next time when I travel country to country, I'll do it by air.

Posted by
1673 posts

It's difficult to see how flying from Brussels to London would take 1/3rd of the time of the train. Assuming going from city centre to city centre, getting to the airport, two hours to go through, an hour to fly and then time to get into London means at least 4/5 hours. There's no way it takes 12/15 hours on the train.

Posted by
83 posts

Johnew52> I respect your input, but I am not, in anyway, form, or fashion exacerbating. To include the fact that we missed an entire day of touring because of the train fisco. Train travel to/from London/Belgium requires standing in long lines, walking distances thru the terminasl, climbing stairs, and man handling luggage on and off trains with different connections.

One who travels to other countries. like myself, would perhaps want travel convenience and this was not it.

Posted by
5402 posts

You should do some searching on Youtube, there are vloggers who do trips like this just to create an episode. Another option you should probably NOT consider is a bus, but yes you can find videos about that as well.

Some of the vlogs are "races" where one person takes the train and the other the train. Often the problem is that they need to use airports that are not at all convenient to a city center, unlike the train which pulls right in.

As an experience traveler you undoubtedly know about the Man in Seat 61.

Posted by
35827 posts

rmill.ace -

it has been a very long time since your post in April, and now you're mentioning how awful your trip was. Sorry about that.

Did you just get back or was this sometime in the summer?

As a regular on the London Brussels Germany corridor I would love you to explain what the problems were that you encountered that made it so bad.

Did you think you would have checked luggage on the Eurostar?

I'm confused about the stairs. I travel with a disabled person who can't do stairs and I don't remember any between London and Brussels. Are you talking about after you got out of the station in Brussels?

I'd value a more complete trip report please

Posted by
35827 posts

I've gone back all the way through and now see your complaint about the check in time. The first two replies on the day you posted the original question, one from Frank II and one from me, warned you of minimum check in times. Did they make you miss your train?

Posted by
29570 posts

This summer I twice spent a lot of time wandering around Brussels Central Station, trying to find a way up to street level via escalator or elevator. I ultimately succeeded, but I never managed to get from the sidewalk down into the train station without negotiating a significant staircase encumbered by my too-heavy bag. I imagine the infrastructure is there and I just didn't find it, but I haven't had that problem in other major-city train stations. I liked Brussels a lot, but I have a very negative impression of that station.