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London City Airport- removal of Liquids Rules

News this morning that London City Airport is the 2nd UK airport (after Teesside) to commission the new 3D security scanners.
So no longer the liquids rules (now allowed 2 litres) and no longer remove electronics etc from your bags.
A far smoother experience.
There is still the hope that all other UK airports can do the same by June 2024.
London City is quite useful for near Europe and some domestic destinations, and well connected on the DLR.
Teesside is a little regional airport near Darlington with what estate agents call "potential"- could be useful but it's only current scheduled routes are to Amsterdam and Aberdeen.

Posted by
358 posts

It's good news from a great airport - but until all airports are doing this it will cause issues. People will fly out of one airport with their two litres then get confused coming back when they find themselves back to 100 ml. The sooner it is brought in everywhere, the better - the use of three different machines (and sets of rules) at an airport I flew through recently caused chaos

Posted by
84 posts

Just as a side note, the US TSA just declared peanut butter as a liquid, subject to the same restrictions as other liquids.

Don't shoot the messenger.

Posted by
15283 posts

Helsinki has these machines. We didn't have to take anything out of our carryons. Every other bag was "dinged" for further inspection. It was a nightmare. Luckily, I made it through unscathed.

I'm still going to pack for limitations. As was stated, while one or two airports might allow larger amounts, all the others don't.

Just as a side note, the US TSA just declared peanut butter as a liquid, subject to the same restrictions as other liquids.

That's un-American. It's even in the Declaration of Independence. We have the right to "Life, liberty and the pursuit of smooth or crunchy."

Posted by
2749 posts

So let’s spend an untold amount of money on a machine to protect you from a threat that was never real. Isn’t that great?

And before you tell me all about the threat of a liquid bomb, let’s step back and remember that flight attendants, pilots, airline employees, airport employees etc. are exempt from this liquid rule . They can bring on as many liquids as they want. But that’s not a problem because they would never be a threat. Would they? If you believe that you might want to go read up on the original liquid bomb plot and find out who some of the plotters were.

It is interesting that I actually believe that London is one of the airports. that did make all those airport workers actually abide by the liquid “ban” unlike the theater We have here in the United States where if you have any relationship at all to the airport you can bring through everything you want

The theater continues.

Posted by
6036 posts

Very true, that for so many years everyone has been subject to these restrictions, which have had almost no basis in fact.

I didn't know that there were such exemptions in the USA, which does reduce the whole matter to farce.

Posted by
15283 posts

Also remember that all pilots, flight attendants and airport employees have been vetted by Homeland Security or they couldn't get or keep the job.

If any airport worker has reason to be in the "secure" area, they are also fingerprinted and the prints are sent to the FBI for checking.

It's not a foolproof system, but they don't just let anyone into the secure area because they applied for a job.

Posted by
275 posts

Just had an experience with this. Canada allows a 355ml bottle of hand sanitizer to be carried on and it does not have to go in the liquids bag. I believe the US also allows this. But Heathrow wanted the hand sanitizer in 100ml bottles in the liquids bag. Had to toss the hand sanitizer.

Posted by
2419 posts

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, isn31c.

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2749 posts

Oh Airline and airport employees have been "vetted" by homeland security and the FBI so they are "safe" LOL!

So, why am I not "safe"? I have GE, I have been "vetted"

And of course that makes them safe? They are all trustworthy and would never cause a problem????? LOL! (The bottom article below is particularly entertaining and really brings into quest the "trustworthy" part )

https://www.travelpulse.com/News/Impacting-Travel/Flight-Attendant-Sets-Fire-on-American-Airlines-Plane-Midflight#:~:text=According%20to%20Alastair%20Jamieson%20of%20NBCNews.com%2C%2023-year-old%20Johnathan,a%20fire%20in%20the%20lavatory%20of%20the%20plane.

https://www.local10.com/news/local/2022/01/21/bso-spirit-airlines-baggage-handler-arrested-for-stealing-items-out-of-luggage/
https://nypost.com/2023/01/14/inside-the-sky-high-world-of-drug-smuggling-flight-attendants/

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15283 posts

On Wednesday, I went through TSA security at JFK. There were flight crew members and airport employees going through the same security as me.

Is it a perfect system.....no....but it's better than nothing.

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2749 posts

yes, flight crews go to the same security line as you and I

But in those bags they have full size shampoos,, shaving creams, full-size lotions etc. . They are not subject to the 311 rule. I’ve had them go through the carrying their Venti Starbucks 😂. But if you have water in a bottle, you’re “chastised” for attempting to break the rules.