LNER train - plan longer time for connection at STP - KGX?

many American suburban residential streets are wider than the road between St Pancras International and Kings Cross.

The Javelin train arrives upstairs on the Kings Cross side of the station. There are lifts (elevators), escalators and stairs down one flight to street level. There is a doorway to the road right there. Cross the road and immediately go in a door and you are in Kings Cross. If you don't stop you could go ticket barrier to ticket barrier in about 5 or maybe 8 or 9 minutes depending on which LNER platform you needed.

Add in picking up lunch and add a few more minutes, and then a fudge factor.

Is it not possible that tickets at the times you want them bought as 2 tickets might be at least as cheap or even cheaper than a through fare Broadstairs to York?

Thanks for describing how close those stations are, Nigel!
And, yes, the two separate tix are indeed cheaper, but ... what if the SE train is SUPER late getting to STP and we miss the LNER train (advance single)? Does that often happen? I realize things come up randomly, of course.

There isn't a way to do it on the internet that I know of.

While it is of no use at all to you, and I don't know if it would work for that particular journey, our ticket machines on Northern Rail very often give you the option of an extended layover- a feature unique to Northern's machines.

You can't force them to do so, it is just how they are programmed.

Just out of interest I might have a look tomorrow morning for that particular journey.

Oh that is very curious!
Right, you are at midnight while it’s 4pm here in California.
Thanks for your feedback :)

Trainsplit has the ability to add extra connection time under "more options", although you might need to tweak other things to get what you want. There are probably others that do too.

I have just checked our machines.

And it is interesting- we can give you the option of extended dwell time between St Pancras and KC, we can also give you a through booking onto the Grand Central train which is not available on the web. But even more interestingly, Northern put you on the xx.56 from Broadstairs, which gives a longer connection time between St Pancras and Kings Cross to start with.
Without more (pointless) investigation I don't think the through fare onto GC is the cheapest way to do it, but interesting that it exists at all.

Not that this is a facility which you can use, but it shows that not all fares are on the web, and that not all machines are equal.

Be very aware of 3rd party websites like train split. Apart from charging commission, as their name suggests, they split the tickets, they do not give you a genuine through ticket. Thus you will not get one ticket which says Broadstairs to York, you will get Broadstairs to London, and London to York tickets.

You can turn off split tickets on Trainsplit - they aren't compulsory. They also don't charge a booking fee.

I am sorry, but trainsplit DO charge a fee when they split. They just call it their 'share of the split'. This is roughly 10% of the face value of the tickets. So for tickets with a face value of £50 they charge you £55 or thereabouts.
By any other name that is commission or a booking fee. Just a more cuddly title.
Tickets you can buy yourself for the £50.
They and similar companies are not charities, that is how they make their profits.

Also booked direct you will be kept up to date directly with any changes due to strikes, weather, engineering work etc.

If you aren't taking a split then a share of nothing is nothing.

Thank you all again for your time to share the options about this journey! There are so many different ways to approach this.

We decided to bite the bullet and purchase the journey as offered, with the short-ish connection in London. We chose coach seats in the "K" car (shares with 1st class). Man in Seat 61 suggests that these cars KLM are closer to the station end, so shorter walking distance.

The good news is, "We're going to YORK!"

Yes first class on all routes should always be at the 'London end' (rear of the train out of London, front end towards London) unless the train has been turned round during engineering work diversions. If you get an announcement that the train is in reverse formation that means that first class is at the front end of the train- but that is rare.

Awesome. Thanks for confirming this, Stuart! Have a great weekend :)