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Hinckley England

I have an old friend who lives in Hinckley which is 89 miles outside of London I have not seen her since the 1960's and we hope to meet up if possible.

I have checked coach timetables as well as train. It is either too expensive or takes way too much time for me to get from London to Hinckley.

If we can do the visit, it will be spur of the moment.

I do not mind taking a coach or train one hour or so in each direction as long as I do not have to make any changes.

Can anyone suggest a town on my route that would be easy for me going north and for her going south

Maybe Bletchley? Cambridge? And then there is a modern planned community.

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Confused.

What modern planned community?

Have you asked your friend the best way to meet up? Surely after all the years she’s lived in Hinkley she must have traveled to London.

I’m hopeful UK posters will answer your query.

But reviewing a map it seems as though Leicester might work for you both.

From London It’s an hour by train from St Pancras International station.

For her looks like a 20 minute ride from Hinkley on Cross Country train to Leicester.

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Hinckley is not on a direct line from London. The nearest place that is on a direct line is Nuneaton. From Nuneaton to Hinkley is only a 6 minute train journey. You are seeing massive fares because where you change trains and train company - it pays to split the ticket.

Anyway, you can get from London EUSton to NUNeaton in around 1 hour 10 minutes and if you Advance book with West Midlands Railway, it can be done for £7.50 each way. If your friend cannot pick you up at Nuneaton, you buy a £6.50 return ticket between Nuneaton & Hinckley which can be purchased on the day - or in Advance.

Go to https://www.westmidlandsrailway.co.uk and put in for EUS > NUN return. (I tested it for 10 January and it offered fares of £7.50 each way on specific trains).
If you are to go from London Euston to Hinkley and are wondering the times with the connecting trains, I suggest you click the following link and put in for EUS > HNK for a day in the future (when things are back to normal) and it will tell you:>
https://www.traintickets.com/?/

So there we have it - cheap and fast. Good job we Brits inhabit this forum! (If your friend does not use the trains, she might be unaware the cheap way to get from a to b).

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Other than Bletchley Park, there is little to recommend the town of Bletchley. Cambridge is much further for your friend to travel.

The train will be quicker than a coach, but will cost more - tickets are cheaper if you book them say 10 weeks out and opt for a non flexible ticket, so you must catch the service that you have nominated. A day return to Leicester next week will cost £70, whereas booking now for February, the same service will cost £43.

Leicester, Coventry and Rugby are places that would be equally easy to get to from London and Hinckley. Ask your friend how far she wants to travel - she may want to drive rather than take the train.

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Hi Claudia,

I do not know the name of the planned community that I have referenced.

King Charles, when he was still Prince Charles, planned and developed a very environmentally friendly and very sustainable community. I thought that that community was on a route between London and Leicester.

I thought that I clicked on that community when I was looking a route map. If I can find it again, I will note it.

My friend was born and raised in Hinckley. I met her when she was living in Los Angeles in the 1960's but I would also later visit her when I was traveling Europe about 1967. I must have visited her in Hinckley. I met her parents and they were living in a council house. I can remember that we ate Fish and Chips at a restaurant or pub.

I was traveling with a friend and did like 70 days traveling around Europe taking trains and buses. I remember very little and my life and I were both very different..

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Hi James and Jennifer,

Unfortunately I can not make advance plans because there is no guarantee we will be able to meet up. It will be last minute if we can.

So I am trying to find a town that would be easy for me to get to as well as easy for herself to get to. Plus hopefully is interesting, pretty, etc.

I was friends with her a very long time ago but not close friends.

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based on your slight description I think you may be thinking of Poundbury.

Unfortunately Poundbury in Dorset is nowhere near either London or Hinckley, or anywhere between them. It is in southwest England, 3 and a half hours by car from Hinckley on a good day, and 2 and a half or three hours southwest of London.

The official website, with some good information but not much on the tensions recently reported in the village, is at
https://poundbury.co.uk/

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I don’t live in that part of the UK & I can’t think of anywhere interesting near to Hinckley. So, I am going to suggest that you could meet up in Birmingham - which has some interesting Victorian Buildings and a heritage Canal area as well as modern malls. Your friend could go from Hinckley to Birmingham (New Street) by train in 36 minutes and the return fare is I think £14.90.

3 train companies operate between London & Birmingham. From Euston there is the very fast 125 mph Avanti express trains which do the journey in 1 hour 16 minutes and these will be the most expensive. Using the same route but making more stops are the trains of West Midlands Railway and these take around 2 hours 18 minutes to do the trip into Birmingham New Street - which is the same station that Avanti use.

The 3rd company is Chiltern Railways which operate between London Marylebone and Birmingham Moor Street and take around 1 hour 46 minutes. It looks to me that if you get your timings right - that you could do the trip with Chiltern for £34.40 return with a Super Off Peak Ticket with no advance booking - you just have to be sure that you are on a Super Off Peak Train - and it looks like most of them are. I suggest that you check when things are back to normal the fares to see what the situation is. This website shows you the 3 companies and the different fares you would pay if not pre-booking.https://www.traintickets.com/?/
https://www.chilternrailways.co.uk
https://visitbirmingham.com

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Poundbury in Dorset is a peculiar place - soulless but there are lots of expensive houses there. It reminds me of a Stepford Wives set.

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Your trip is not until October, so you have lots of time to discuss this with your friend and make a plan.

If you leave it until the last minute to decide, it will be much more expensive for the train tickets. If you buy Advance tickets ahead of time, you will be able to look forward to meeting up with your friend, but if you decide not to go you will lose very little. The time to buy Advance tickets for October would be sometime in August or September, (6-12 weeks ahead) so you until then to decide.

Andrew have given you the fare for Advance tickets to Nuneaton, which looks like a good option if your friend can pick you up there. £7.50 each way is not much more than a Tube journey within London.

If you prefer to meet up someplace interesting in between London and Hinckley, maybe Cambridge would suit? I looked at prices for early February, 6 weeks from now, and saw Advance tickets from London Liverpool Station to Cambridge for £8.00.

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Nigel,

you are right. It is Poundbury.

I first heard about this planned community from a friend here in Austin who maybe consulted on this project and or visited it.

But more recently I saw something about Poundbury on a TV biography about King Charles.

I thought that it sounded very cool and futuristic but someone has posted that there is tension in the village. What are the problems?

When I was looking at a route between London and Leicester, there was a town with the name of a person or maybe three words. Eventually I will try to find it. I clicked on and thought that maybe it was the Planned Community I had heard about. But obviously I was wrong.

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This friend who I am describing is a casual friend.

I have told her that I will be in London, etc, and she has said something about hoping we can get together but wants to wait until I am in London. So no advance planning.

I think that it is more important to me to get together than it is to her.

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Poundbury is traditional looking, not futuristic. I am not aware of tensions there. It just seems to be full of pompous people in my limited experience.

Any town between London and Hinckley would suit, although Cambridge is less convenient for your friend.

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I mentioned tensions at Poundbury. That's based on reports on BBC news shows over the last several months that residents are unhappy about the very strict rules for modifying their property, decorating their property, what type of vehicle they may drive, what sort of shops can be there and from shop owners how they can advertise.

Generally some of the people are resentful of what they see as micromanaging their lives there and others didn't want to be on camera.

In any event it is too far.

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Claudia and Nigel

The modern planned community that I was thinking of is Milton Keynes.

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Milton Keynes - so that explains how Poundbury - which is miles away on the west side of Dorchester in the County of Dorset got mixed up into this topic.

Milton Keynes is a large modern (1970/80’s) community whilst Poundbury is newer and built under the guidance of Prince Charles and his team of architects with traditional architecture. It is the direct opposite of MK - which I presume the now King Charles 3 hates. I have been to Poundbury a couple of times and actually like it but don't go looking for Poundland or B&M value store.

https://www.destinationmiltonkeynes.co.uk
https://poundbury.co.uk

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I was wondering if you were referring to Milton Keynes. You should read Bill Bryson’s description of the place, and how impossible it is to walk around there, before thinking of a visit. I believe it is in Notes from a Small Island.

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I have done some research on both Poundbury and Milton Keynes, Very interesting.

So these are planned communities or I think what is called new towns.

I have a graduate degree in Urban Planning so it is of interest to me and relevant to my education even though I did not work in the field.

It seems that Poundbury is a new community but with an old timey look. However you can not create the old timey feel which is what the planners might have hoped for. We have brand new developments such as these in and around Austin. Interestingly enough the homes may look old timey but they have the very best modern of conveniences and are very expensive.

And Milton Keynes is a brand new and modern up to date planned community.

Both are planned. That is what they share. And they possibly work for sme but not for others.

For me, there is a note of nostalgia. I grew up in the Dorchester neighborhood of Boston which is a very old community and founded when the early British first arrived.

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I have never visited Poundbury and am unlikely to so other than what I have seen on the news I am clueless. Although I would hesitate to call by the specific term New Town which had/has a specific place in English/Scottish/Welsh law.

New Towns were primarily for overspill from major conurbations like London and Glasgow and many other cities which had suffered under the oppression of Nazi bombing raids in the Second World War, and from the urban clearances which preceded but mostly followed the war.

As has been said about Coventry and London, for example, what the Luftwaffe started the planners finished. ("the planning department of the London County Council, whose unofficial motto was Finishing What the Luftwaffe Started")

So when entire neighbourhoods were torn down the people had to go somewhere. New Towns were conceived as places they could be relocated to despite breaking up local culture and relationships, and despite being many dozens of miles out in the countryside.

Some New Towns, particularly in Scotland, have lost the committees (QUANGOs really (QUAsi Non-Governmental Organisation = QUANGO, sometimes as QUasi Autonomous Non elected Government Organisation) ) which drove them forward and kept them going.

Milton Keynes, of which I can speak quite freely, it being just a few miles from me, is one New Town I know very well. I'm writing from personal knowledge, not google. New city really because just before our late beloved Queen Elizabeth II passed on she made Milton Keynes a city.

Some parts of Milton Keynes are still being built, and there is still a large amount of the city undeveloped, but some of the original housing stock is in an awful state, and some parts of Milton Keynes have some of the most deprived areas in Britain. Most buildings originally were council houses, fairly recently virtually all of the housing has been privately built, some very expensive. Most of the neighbourhoods are middle to lower middle class and working class.

Milton Keynes was built originally as a series of pseudo villages (every estate has a name by which it is known) on a grid pattern, linked by high speed (70 mph) arterial roads and roundabouts, and laced together by a network of "red roads" - narrow pedestrian and cycleways which never cross the arterial roads at grade. Mostly underpasses by a few overpasses. Each pseudo village was to have local shops and other amenities, with major shopping centres linked by buses and Central Milton Keynes which is mostly shopping malls and office blocks.

Crime rates are very high in some parts of Milton Keynes and unfortunately some of the red roads have become the haunts of some of the less pleasant members of the community, especially the underpasses.

If you intend to look around Milton Keynes it is wise to know where you are going - appearances aren't everything, some of the most heinous crimes in recent months have been in ordinary looking estates - and know what you want to see...

The most famous residents of MK are the concrete cows. Every conceivable shop - pretty much - is in MK Central so no need to go to London for shopping. Many of the middle class residents do go to London to work, trains are very crowded at rush hour. Milton Keynes has three train stations - Wolverton (site of the former railway workshops), Milton Keynes Central and Bletchley, from north to south. Like everywhere in the financial crisis bus routes are being cut back and prices raised. MK wants to be world leading electric vehicles but many of the few chargers are out of order, and the self charging buses the town arranged for the city has cancelled.

Parks are extensive and many follow the Grand Union Canal as it passes though on its way to London. There is an indoor ski slope with good snow.

Milton Keynes was started in 1967, some buildings have been demolished

Is there anything in particular you'd like to know?

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thanks for that Lola. I wonder how my piece was received - bleak? I hope it was balanced, after all I have to go there often for my nearest Costco, my nearest IKEA and my nearest John Lewis department store. I used to work there too, in Bletchley and Milton Keynes Central station.

I hope that I gave the good and the bad.

I have realized that MK has a real split personality. It wants to be cutting edge, with food delivery robots (those 6 wheeled robots in your story) and autonomous vehicle testing and automatically charging electric buses (the plan was to stop over big metal plates in the road which would raise up and contactlessly charge the bus and drop down when it drove off - what could possibly go wrong??) and robot taxis on the red roads (what could possibly go wrong), but none of those besides the little food delivery robots has taken off, while at the same time putting roundabouts every quarter mile or so on the matrix of 70 mph arterial roads (what could possibly go wrong).

So on the one hand trying to be highly environmentally friendly, at the same time accelerating trucks, cars and buses from near zero to 70 and back down again every quarter mile and then spinning them around roundabouts with traffic coming at them at high speed.

Clutches, brakes, tyres all worn out and awful fuel economy with all that constant accelleration.

Typical of MK.

Anyway, was it balanced?

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Nigel, your review is certainly honest, and serves to reinforce my view that the city fails to demonstrate any intent to be eco-friendly. Bryson and the other article both mentioned how unkind it is to pedestrians; you describe the vehicles racing from roundabout to roundabout, consuming excess fuel with repeated acceleration and braking; and then there is that indoor ski slope. I hope they don’t keep it open in summer.

https://snozoneuk.com/milton-keynes/