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Help with trains and booking

We are going from London to Edinburgh, and we want to see Hadrian's Wall. Going north, we are thinking it would be quicker to take the speed rail up the east coast of England since we have an appointment in the afternoon and need to pick up a rental car. Going south, from Edinburgh to London, we would like to go down the west coast and go to Hadrian's wall. ....Questions:
1) We are seeing multiple places to book the speed rail. What is the best place (website) to book it?
2) Returning from Edinburgh to London and going by Hadrian's Wall, someone posted:

So from Edinburgh take the 0652 train from Edinburgh to Carlisle - arrives 0805, then the 0820 to Haltwhistle or Hexham (in to HW at 0850, Hexham about 0910). Carlisle to Hexham is £2.40 advance single each on the train- beats paying him £125 to meet you at Carlisle.

From Hexham, can you return to Carlisle and go south to London? If so, which train? Avanti? Is there a train number?

3) Would it be less expensive to get a rail pass for the time we will be in England and Scotland so we can get on/off when and where we would like? If so, is the rail pass to any rail line?

Thank you for your help!

Posted by
15007 posts

This is the official rail site for the UK:

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk

This will tell you the schedule and which train company operates your chosen train. You can buy tickets from any train company but I prefer to buy from the company operating the train.

For Hadrian's wall, you can definitely go on your own or take a small group tour with Rabbies out of Edinburgh:

https://www.rabbies.com/en/england-tours/from-edinburgh/day-tours/hadrians-wall-roman-britain-the-scottish-borders-day-tour

For your routing, I doubt a rail pass would pay off. Price each leg of your journey and compare that to the cost of the railpass.

Posted by
876 posts

If "we" is two of you, you can probably save with a TwoTogether railcard. It costs £30 for a year but gies you 1/3rd off rail fares, so as long as your planned trains cost £90 or more you will save.

Posted by
1835 posts

Haltwhistle is the better base to see Hadrian's Wall. But have you thought about how you are going to see it once you get there? It's about 1.5 mile walk north of Haltwhistle so you can either walk (and you can walk along the line of the wall from here) or check up times of the AD122 bus which runs along the line of the wall.

Posted by
876 posts

wasleys - although not mentioned directly in the OP Michael mentions saving £125 by going to Haltwhistle rather than being collected in Carlisle, so I assume he's referring to the Hadrian's Wall tour that Peter Carney offers.

Posted by
5749 posts

Trains don't have public numbers in the UK, unlike in North America. They do internally, within the industry, but those numbers are not used by the public

It doesn't really matter if you go on to Newcastle or back to Carlisle from Hexham or Haltwhistle. Two trains per hour on LNER from Newcastle to London Kings Cross (plus very infrequent Lumo trains), and two trains an hour on Avanti from Carlisle to London Euston.

It's usually cheaper on Avanti from Carlisle, and last trains to London are on either line are after 9pm, getting into London after 1am.

For my liking Avanti are way more comfortable than LNER. But that is subjective.

The AD122 bus is currently every two hours from Haltwhistle station to Hexham station and was in Summer 2023. Whether it reverts to it's historical hourly schedule in Summer 2024 only time will tell.

Posted by
1280 posts

As I’ve mentioned before, the most scenic part of the wall, the bits in all the photographs, runs from Housesteads fort west to Greenhead. If exploring on your own I’d recommend getting the AD122 bus, as wasleys suggested and get dropped off at Twice Brewed (handy pub if you need to wait for the return bus) and walk up to Steel Rigg car park. From there you have a choice of good wall sections in either direction, east or west. If driving yourself, then merely drive to Steel Rigg and park there.

I guess it depends on how far you want to walk and what you specifically want to see. For instance, Housesteads fort is smack bang on the wall, but Vindolanda is set some distance south of the wall, the Roman Museum is again, a separate location, so you need to work out what you want to see and work out what travel mode gets you there most efficiently. I’d guess that driving yourself would be the best answer but the AD122 does give you a public transport option.

Ian