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Getting to Euston Station for train to Penrith

I am not leaving until the 12th but planning ahead. After a whole day and a half in London I think I am making good progress with the Tube. I am staying halfway between Blackfriars and St. Paul’s. It looks like St.Paul’s to Oxford Circus, transfer to the Victoria Line, exit at Euston will get me there. What I don’t know though is whether I will be able to avoid stairs (suitcase time). Does anyone know?

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To avoid stairs you have to go to Blackfriars, get a westbound train to Victoria then the Victoria line to Euston. I was a bit racking my brains as I just bump my case up stairs, so have just put that requirement into the TfL journey planner, and that's the answer that came up.
At Euston there are escalators or a longer ramp access so that isn't an issue, and all main line platforms are accessed by ramps.

At Penrith the fairly new lifts are towards the south end of the platform, so try to be in the back standard class car out of Euston (the first standard class car you come to as you board at the back of the train).
If it is an 11 car train that will be Car U (which is all unreserved seating), if it's a 9 car train it will be Car F.
The lift will take you over to the station exit which is on the southbound platform. The bus stop is right outside, where there is also a nice coffee truck, and the taxis.
Assuming you are going to Keswick, what street is your accommodation on? (I'm not so nosy as to ask for the name of the place). I ask because for many of the B and B's it is best to ask the driver to set you down at 'County Corner' [a local name, not one you will see on a sign], opposite the war memorial- rather than stay on to the Bus Station. Many people do that, you won't be alone.
You will have run in alongside the river (on your right) after you have passed the Twa Dogs Inn on your left, then past the Fire Station on your left. If it is County Corner you want gather up your stuff as you pass the Fire Station. The road then turns sharp right with the War Memorial on your right. The County Corner stop is straight after the Memorial.
If you are staying on to the Bus Station the bus stays on that road, does a sharp left, sharp right and then left again. The Bus Station is at Booths supermarket.

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What a lot of great information! You are thinking through my trip better than I am. It’s good to know about the search term for the TfL app.
I have a reserved seat for the train Euston to Penrith in car E. My humble research had led me to believe the bus station in Penrith was a 10 minute walk so very good to know that it is right outside the train station.

In Keswick, I am comfortable sharing the name of where I am staying. It’s the Woodside Bed and Breakfast on Penrith Rd. It looks like a bit of a walk.

Thank you so much for your help. It really helps me to relax and enjoy all the interesting things I am doing in London.

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There is a bus stop more or less straight opposite the Woodside B and B., opposite the Burnside B and B. The Woodside is 3, maybe 4 doors down the hill from the Burnside.

When the Bus comes off the A66 into Keswick it's the second stop down the hill. Ask the driver to set you down at Chestnut Hill.
The official stop name is Penrith Road near Ash Tree House but everyone calls it Chestnut Hill.
If you miss the stop and the bus turns right onto Penrith Road don't worry get off at the next one- Latrigg Close- a very short walk back up the hill.
The little road up to Castlerigg Stone Circle is beside the bus stop- a nice short evening walk, especially at Sunset.
Yes it's a bit of a schlep into town from there- 10 to 15 minutes. But you have the X4/X5 and the 555 (for Grasmere and Windermere and extra buses into Keswick) has a stop a few yards away up Chestnut Hill itself on the A591.
If going into town, and you want to walk it, turn right down Chestnut Hill, then after 50 yards or so left onto the old railway path/cycle way. That's the pretty way, and very well used.
Behind the Woodside is the old railway path to Threlkeld- 3 miles away- a really lovely level walk, again accessed from Chestnut Hill/Penrith Road.

At Penrith the Bus Station is 10 minutes walk away, but on it's way out of town the bus stops at the Railway Station as well. It'll come up from town, go past the station, then turn in to the station turning circle at Castle Park just opposite you. It should be a double decker. Most of them have racks for luggage on the lower deck on the left hand side as you enter the bus, past the stairs- depends a bit but it will if it's the rostered bus.

Car E is the second standard class car from back on a 9 car train, 3rd from back on an 11 car train. So when you get off at Penrith turn left down the platform and you'll see the footbridge which the lift takes you up to, cross the footbridge, and lift back down on the other side. Normally the train despatcher is standing close to the footbridge, and will be happy to help you. They are a friendly lot at Penrith Station.

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You have just made my trip to Keswick about 100% better. Being able to navigate smoothly leaves me free to fully enjoy all the sights. I appreciate your generosity in taking the time to share all these details. Ten minutes to walk to the Penrith bus station sounds fine but stepping right outside the train station sounds better.

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You are describing an area with a lot of Underground options.

A walk to Cannon Street is probably as easy as the other two you have listed (but your exact start point really matters, to be sure) - stairs there are limited and then it's one train to Euston so saves you a change.

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Forgot to add, Cannon Street is also step free on the east side and has a lift - it doesn't show as step free as the west side isn't.

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I'd love to know when the no change tube line from Cannon Street to Euston Station opened. The Circle line from Cannon Street calls at Euston Square which is then a walk down the street to Euston.
From where the OP seems to be saying that seems an unnecessary walk.
There is no covered connection from Euston Square to Euston, the two stations are not integrated- unless that is also an unknown new addition to the network, unknown even to TfL, let alone me.
I am fully well aware of that route and did consider it, but dismissed it.
Access from platform to street at Euston Square is by Elevator/lift. From memory the elevators exit onto the exit on the south side of Euston Road, so you also have to cross Euston Road to get to Euston on the walk.
The Circle line also calls at Blackfriars anyway, before Cannon Street.
So the saving in walking by not changing trains at Victoria is lost with the walk down the street.
Yes there is ramped access from the street onto the Piazza outside Euston but it is not immediately obvious. I do know that route to Euston well.

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as one who has done the London end of the trip many many times (I worked trains in and out of Euston for many years and Euston was my entry into London on personal trips too, and who has spent quite a lot of time on Ludgate Hill) my answer would for step free Ludgate Hill to Euston be different.

Since the 12th is this Wednesday we aren't expecting a strike, I would suggest Thameslink from the Ludgate Hill entrance to City Thameslink station which I described in a prior thread of yours (lifts and escalators) to St Pancras International (only 2 stops). Lifts and escalators up to the surface. Then a short walk to Euston (maybe 10 minutes). Or walk through the main concourse of the station (food to the left of me and food to the right, even a public piano) to the tube station (lifts and escalators) to either the Northern Line or the Victoria Line one stop to Euston.

Happy travels on the West Coast Main Line. Some of the scenery is quite beautiful and you will see rivers and canals (and a motorway) from the train.

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It looks like St.Paul’s to Oxford Circus, transfer to the Victoria Line, exit at Euston will get me there

That is a good route if steps are not a consideration. St Pauls is not step free.

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Made it to the B & B in Keswick which does seem to be a schlep into town. Plus getting into my room involved two sets of stairs. Luckily, my suitcase isn’t that heavy but going upstairs with a suitcase isn’t my preference. Oh well.
I chose the City Thameslink to St. Pancras, then the walk to Euston. Directions at Euston were clear about stair free access. It was a very easy trip to Euston. I hadn’t realized how close I was to City Thameslink as Blackfriars had taken me to where I wanted to go or my own two feet.

The advice to get off at Chestnut Hill just before Keswick was a huge help. London was great, now to dodge raindrops in the Lake District.

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Lauri,

Thanks for reporting back. Welcome to the Lake District.

Yes it is looking like dodging rain drops every day except tomorrow- Thursday, and Friday being a distinctly dreich sort of day. Several times yesterday I got drowned in huge showers. There are several outdoor shops in the town centre if you need to improve your wet weather gear.

I hadn't actually thought about things inside your B and B. I don't know of any B and B's in Keswick which have elevators, and many if not most have the majority of their rooms upstairs. Only the bigger hotels have those.
That is a very good point for others to bear in mind- to check with the establishment when booking, and specify any needs.

I wonder if the last B and B I saw Rick use, down by Hope Park has elevators- can't remember it's name, I can see it in my mind clearly though.

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I'm glad that getting to Euston was easy, and that now you are in the land of beautiful vistas. Thanks for the report.