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Fly SFO to Heathrow and then take the train to Manchester or fly to MAN. What to do?

I am pricing out flights from SFO to Manchester, UK . There are no direct flights, so most likely we will fly to LHR and then here we need to make a decision.

It's cheaper to get a round trip from SFO to LHR, (and if we are lucky use my CC points for a free flight, either PE or BC)
so we are considering flying to LHR and then getting a separate flight to MAN.
It wouldn't be on the same ticket and perhaps not the same airline.

So I need your experience on the hassle factor at LHR.

after we land at LHR, I assume we would go get our luggage and go through passport control. Then what?

With a separate ticket to MAN, (we would fly cheap economy for the 1 hour flight) would we have to go to go through security again and recheck our bags with the new airline? and I assume we would want a flight to MAN that leaves 2-3 hours after we land at LHR?

Or is there a connection corridor that we can use that allows us to stay inside the security area, but check our bags with the new airline?
(total travel time: be there 2 hours before flight, 1 hr flight to Manchester, then take train from airport to Manchester Piccadilly (<1 hr) = 3-4 hours)

OR GO BY TRAIN?
from LHR, take the Elizabeth Line : Terminal 5 to Tottenham Road Court Underground, take Northern Line tube to Euston Station (1 hr travel time)
Take train from Euston Station to Manchester Piccadilly (2 hours 10 minutes )
Total travel time: 3-4 hours.

Your wisdom, past experience and/or comments on what I'm failing to see or understand are welcome.

FWIW, this will be our fourth trip to the UK, three times to London (we visited before the Elizabeth Line or Heathrow Express existed.) So I'm familiar with the geography and London in general.
And my past transfer experience at LHR was abysmal. My family almost missed our flight to Italy. I swore never to do a transfer at LHR again, but I have to this time.

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It seems very risky to have a connecting flight on a separate ticket, no matter which airport you're transiting through. This seems even more risky at LHR. I would not do the flight combinations you've described. I sense that 2 hours in LHR will not be enough time on a separate ticket.

I've avoided LHR, in part because of previous experiences like yours, so I can't speak from experience.

Having already visited London many times, it seems that there's no interest in spending time there for this trip; but if you're wiling to spend a few days there, it would make all of this more feasible. Then you can adjust to UK time and train to Manchester another day. That's what I would do, especially given your previously abysmal experience at LHR. If no interest in a repeat London visit, I would consider the train connection to be the safer way to go.

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LHR is a nightmare for connections. I’m not comfortable with a 3 hr connection on the same ticket. There’s no way I would book a flight on a separate ticket with checked bags with less than 3-4 hours connecting time. You have to do everything you said: collect your bags, go through immigration, check your bags, go through security. Most likely change terminals. Possibly go through security again. There is no airside way to do this. It will be as if you arrived to the airport from the outside.

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The only carrier from LHR to MAN is BA with typically 9 flights a day.
The train from Euston is every 20 minutes.
The highest fare you can pay on the train from Euston is £79.80 off peak. A walk up fully flexible fare.
The train is the huge!y obvious choice If not on a through air ticket.
If the SFO flight was late, retimed or cancelled and you had to buy a new air ticket for the last leg it may well be north of £200.
From SFO to LHR direct you would fly BA, UA or VS.

But you can also book with BA, so therefore presumably with AA, for an AA flight to JFK, then BA to LHR, then BA to MAN, all on one ticket.

You can also through ticket on Aer Lingus via Dublin, and Alaskan to Portland OR then BA.

Can't you get a through ticketed open jaw?

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https://www.heathrow.com/connecting-flights

Once you have an idea of which flights you want plug them into the connections tool o; the Heathrow website. With check bags you would have to go through passport control then to baggage claim. Get your bags and head to the baggage drop desk of the second carrier. That could be in a different terminal depending on the carriers involved. Then a security screening. Having only carry on bags and boardings cards would allow you to connect airside. I any case I would not attempt this without at least 4 hours between flights. Too many things that could go wrong to delay your arrival.

I have a similar issue regarding taking the train. In my case the train from Kings Cross to York. Unfortunately giving a healthy margin for delays I would be on the train about 2 or 3pm. From previous experience that’s exactly the time I start to get tired and drowsy on arrival day. I’d be afraid of falling asleep on the train and missing my stop as the trains do not terminate at York. So I elected to do an overnight stay in London.

Many people find Heathrow big and cumbersome. If you can navigate a large multi terminal airport like San Francisco or NY JFK I think you’ll be fine at Heathrow.

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You're getting great information but you didn't tell us when you are flying. There are seasonal flights from the US to Manchester but without knowing when your trip will take place, it's hard to give advice.

As an example, Virgin Atlantic flies from JFK in NY nonstop to Manchester. You could book the whole flight (SFO-JFK-MAN) on Delta. (Delta plane to JFK, VA plane to MAN with Delta codeshare.) This way you would bypass LHR.

Aer Lingus also flies nonstop from JFK to MAN without connecting in Dublin. You could fly AA to JFK and then Aer Lingus to Manchester. (Both are in the same alliance and can be bought as one ticket. )

If you don't already have your tickets, look for a flight on British Airways (SFO-LHR-MAN). This can be booked via either British Airways or American Airlines who codeshares these flights. If you do that, your bags will be automatically transferred from one flight to another. You would be able to use the Flight Connections passport control area rather than the main one. You would have to go through security again.

When you decide which flights you want to take, go to:

http://www.heathrow.com/flight-connections

to get step by step instructions on how to make the connection.

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I flew Aer Lingus to Manchester last year (from Washington DC) and it went very well. We’re doing it again this spring. Connecting in Dublin is much less stressful than Heathrow, or having to take a train or bus to Manchester from London. On the return trip there’s the benefit of going through US immigration and customs in Dublin so you don’t have to do that when arriving in US. They usually have pretty good fares. Flight times a bit shorter too since US to Manchester via Dublin is geographically more direct than via London.

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One other thing about going through Dublin is that there is a common travel area between Ireland and the UK so the Irish immigration you go through, which is normally pretty quick, is good for the UK too so you won’t have to do that again in Manchester. But whichever way you go you will need the new advance UK travel authorization.

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Flights can be late, sometimes a lot. If this was my trip I'd spend a nite in London and then take a train to Manchester the next morning. You could stay within walking distance of the Euston Station area at something like Premier Inn and buy discount advance purchase train tickets. This is what we usually do when we need to take long-haul trains from the arrival city. Even if it is a bit more expensive, decoupling the trips reduces the stress a lot. Often the net price difference is only on the order of $100.

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Whatever you do, don't forget to get an ETA for all travelling passengers. I am risk averse so I would take one of the suggestions above to look for tickets that get you directly to Manchester without booking a separate flight.

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Thank you to all who replied.

A direct SFO- LHR (round trip booking) works best for us. It's a shorter 10 hour flight and it's cheaper for us to book round trip than to find a one way flight and stop in Dublin or Frankfurt to Manchester and then buy a return flight - LHR to SFO. We will be in the UK for 4 weeks, visiting Manchester/Skipton for a barge cruise, then the Lakes district, then Liver pool and then to London for a week and we fly out of London at the end of the trip.

I am now leaning towards taking the train/underground from LHR to Euston Station and finding an inexpensive hotel around there
and spending the night there. I know we will be jet lagged. So the next day, we will get an early afternoon train to Manchester Piccadilly station.

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You don’t want to be looking at two one way fares for this - they will almost always be a lot more than a return. Price up an open jaw return (sometimes called multi city) on airlines’ websites. i.e. SFO-MAN and LHR-SFO on one ticket. And remember to factor in the cost both in money and time of getting from LHR to Manchester into the equation.

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I am also going SFO to Manchester this spring. I toyed with the idea flying but I would not want to buy a separate ticket on BA from LHR because if I missed the BA flight, it would be my problem and not the airline's to get me on another flight. I have also had some stressful connections at LHR. I could have tried going on American/British Air codeshare but this time I had enough miles to fly United. United's option was SFO to Frankfurt to Manchester. I didn't really like the schedule on that one, so I am flying SFO to LHR then train to Manchester. I am a bit worried about falling asleep on the train in the afternoon but maybe I will set a timer or an alarm.

Last year, I did a similar trip (not Manchester, different city) and decided to stay in London the first night, near the train station I needed. That way there was no concern about making a connection. I dropped my bag at the hotel in London, then had an easy day poking around, took a walk, went into the Victoria and Albert for a while, etc., then took a mid-morning train the next day.

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The trains to Manchester from London all terminate at Piccadilly so even if you do fall asleep the cleaners will be along to wake you!