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Day Trip - London (Victoria) to Liverpool via Avanti West Coast

Hello Fellow Travelers -

My husband and I will be in London next month mid to late October. Given that I've been a life long Beatles fan I am determined to visit Liverpool while we're in the UK. My hubby is willingly going along.

After researching the RS Travel Forums it appears that Avanti West Coast offers a "direct" route. If so, then it is our best option. When I looked at the ticketing process it seems that there are several Liverpool destination stations to choose from.

I'm anticipating spending 4 - 6 hours in Liverpool with a Beatlecentric focus.

Given those particulars which rail station would you recommend we select as our Liverpool destination?

Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us!

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This will be quite a long day trip and you should book your trains with reserved seats asap for the best price. Liverpool Lime Street is the best station for direct trains. There are several companies offering tours. It's an easy walk from the station to the museum and where some tours start.

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10541 posts

The trains leave from London Euston, not Victoria. Connect from Victoria by tube - the Victoria Line.

Avanti only serve Lime Street in Liverpool. All other stations are served by Merseyrail with very frequent service from Lime Street Low Level.

If you were going to Albert Dock or the Pierhead for the ferries or the 3 graces for instance you might connect to James Street, which is about a 15 to 20 minute walk away.

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17903 posts

My cousin is a Beatles fanatic. A few years ago he was visiting London with his wife and daughter. He was determined to get to Liverpool to take a Beatles tour

His day trip to Liverpool was planned while his family would stay in London.

Long story short..his train was delayed and he missed the tour.

If taking a Beatles tour is in your plans, go the night before.

Posted by
10286 posts

I agree with Bill and Frank. It's at best a 2 1/2 hour train ride each way, plus the time spend getting to Euston and getting to your tour. It would be much much easier if you go up the day before and spend the night, then take your tour the next morning.

There is a Premier Inn near the Lime Street station that would be a good choice, as they are convenient, very clean and comfortable, and generally very reasonably priced. If that doesn't work, there are a large number of hotels in that area.

Posted by
88 posts

Thank you, all, for sharing your helpful advice. You've given me much to ponder. Greatly appreciate the links included in your response, Buckinghamshire.

WL

Posted by
101 posts

You might find that booking off peak train tickets after the evening rush and a room in a Premier Inn, or similar, in central Liverpool will work out cheaper than the cost of tickets travelling on the day.

There are lots of places at Euston to buy food to have a train picnic for your evening meal. On an evening train lots of people will be doing the same!

Posted by
413 posts

Hi Wanderlust,

Buckinghamshire is where I live. It’s the county just to the northwest of London.

No offence taken. This post is just for clarity. Have a good trip.

Bill

Posted by
158 posts

All intercity trains go into Liverpool Lime Street station. The other stations dotted around the city centre such as Central, Moorfields, St James are served by local trains called Merseyrail, as is Lime St.
There are many hotels in the city, but there is a Premier Inn to the left of Lime St station and The Liner on the other side.

Posted by
511 posts

I agree with Emma and others above re the best solution. Take a latish train from Euston to Liverpool Lime Street. Have your evening meal on the train, lots of food outlets at Euston. And if, when booking the train, the 1st class options are a good deal go with that - they often include a decent meal and drinks.

I stayed at the Premier Inn close to Lime Street in July. It was just up the road from the station. I booked a Premier plus room as it was a good price at the time, but their regular rooms are perfectly fine.

Realise that this may mean you have already paid for a London hotel and you feel you lose the cost of the nights stay by taking this solution.. But IMO to get the best out of a trip to Liverpool trying to do it as a day trip is just too hard, and has the potential of train delays.

And if you want to do the National Trust tour of Paul and John's childhood homes you really need to see if you can book now.

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If you do a self guided tour there is a fair amount of walking.

So buy a Zone C saveaway ticket for £5 each- all buses and trains after 9.30am weekdays, anytime at weekends, on the Liverpool side of the River Mersey.
Buy it at Lime Street High Level (main line) station as all Merseyrail stations (including Lime Street Low Level) charge £1 extra.
You should also be able to buy it, post dated at Euston.

Or buy a Plus Bus ticket with your rail ticket- buses only for £4.20.

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Spend the night in Liverpool. The train station is Liverpool Lime Street. It goes to/from Euston Station in London.

If you are a life-long Beatles fan, then you will want to go to (and book several months in advance) the Beatles childhood homes run by the National Trust.
https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/visit/liverpool-lancashire/the-beatles-childhood-homes

It's a guided tour only at either 10 am or 10:45 am, so you will want to be in Liverpool the night before. From Liverpool CBD, you will have to take their city train or a Taxi/Uber to the pickup point

If you are a die hard Beatles fan (as I am) look at staying at the Hard Days Night hotel,

https://www.millenniumhotels.com/en/liverpool/hard-days-night-hotel-liverpool#/

which is around the corner from the Cavern Club and there are two Beatles museums, the Beatles Story and the Beatles Museum.
On Friday nights at the cavern Club, there is a Beatles cover band

There is of course, the Magical Mystery Bus Tour (2 hours) which starts at 10am or 9:30 am in the summer
https://www.cavernclub.com/the-magical-mystery-tour/

To do any of these things, means you need to spend the night in Liverpool the night before.

As you state you are die hard fan, answer this question and I willl give you tips on the Beatles in London:

Q: Without using google, how many One- World title Beatles songs are there? Or can how many can you name?

OK, here's are the tips for London

London Walks has a A Beatles Magical mystery tour on Sundays and Wednesdays that end up at Abbey Road.

https://www.walks.com/popular-walks/beatles/

Have fun!

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A little late to add to this thread, but hopefully this is a little helpful! I dragged my family along on a Liverpool Beatles pilgrimage a few years ago (it was so worth it!). Agree with the other recommendations to go up the day/evening before (ideally I think two nights in Liverpool would give you the most flexibility to see the best sights). We took the first Avanti West Cost train from London to Liverpool on our trip, and it ended up being stopped on the tracks for over an hour mid-way through the journey, due to a person being on the tracks somewhere up ahead. We got into Liverpool much later than planned, and a lot of the later trains on the line that day were delayed because of this.

For a very authentic feeling experience, George Harrison's childhood home is an AirBnb, it felt so atmospheric to stay there. I think it may have a multi-night requirement, and it is pretty far from downtown, but we had a very easy time getting Ubers to and from.

The absolute best Beatles experiences we had were:
Casbah Coffee Club tour (we booked reservations using the web form on that web page, and payment was in cash at the end of the tour) and the aforementioned National Trust tour of John and Paul's childhood homes.

Tip for the National Trust tour- they will bring back to the pick-up location at the end of the tour, but you can pass on that ride back and instead you can leave the group and head out on your own. Our tour ended at Paul's house, so at the end we walked through the Allerton golf course imagining that might have been the very path the boys would walk between their houses, and we walked up to Strawberry Fields and then to the church that was the site of the Woolton fete (you can also peek into the church hall where the fateful meeting occurred- it's actually across the street and a little bit downhill from the church).

If you get an Uber or taxi from the church back downtown it will very likely go through the Penny Lane area, and you'll see the barbershop and the roundabout.

The Beatles Museum on Mathew Street (close to the Cavern Club) is worth a visit, and stop in The Grapes a few doors down (they have a photo up on the wall at the booth where the Beatles often sat).

If you end up with more time in the city, a meal at the Philharmonic is worth it for the "Beatles used to drink here" experience, and it's a gorgeous building. Around the corner from there is Ye Cracke, one of John's favorite watering holes. When we were there they had some Beatles photos up on the walls, and we had a lovely conversation with the bartender (I've read that it's under new management, so not sure how much of the Beatle-y history feel of it will remain in the future, but when I was there it really felt like a place where you could imagine art school students hanging out). Also, the Jacaranda has a few Beatles photos up, and is another place where you can imagine it may have looked pretty much the same when the band was hanging out there.

I haven't done the Magical Mystery bus tour because I felt like the experiences being in the Casbah and the homes felt more authentic, and the bus tour doesn't actually let you go into Paul's and John's homes. I have done the Beatles Story museum on the Albert docks, and it was kind of fun, but very skip-able, and I would only recommend as the last thing to do if you had tons of time.