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Confused by Travelcard information - staying in Windsor - hoping to spend time in London

When I read about the Travelcard/Oystercard information - I become very confused. Our hotel is in Windsor, but we would like to spend many of our days in London, 5 days in a row in fact. I am trying to discern how to obtain and use a Travelcard - it says there are many and they all use the same name, but have differing benefits/options. Can someone help me to understand what travel card I would like, where to use it, how to use it and how to not make a mistake with it. I am reading about different places sell different travel cards, some travel cards have 2 for 1 deals with them - I will be traveling with a teen. I also understand we do not want an Oystercard, but that sometimes you can ask for a travel card and they sell you an oyster card. There is also information that you turn in your travel card upon disembarking from a subway, but we should not do that, we need to just let someone know we want to keep it. Also, I understand we must carry a photo id with us to use it. I am thinking we would like a 7 day travel card to use to get from Windsor to London and around London using the tube and buses. I believe we need to take the train from Windsor - Waterloo via Slough or is that only if we are disembarking at Paddington Station. I am so sorry for all the questions - I am a visual learner and feel I am not understanding this concept.

Thank you so much!

Posted by
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It is a shame that you broke this out of your previous question where we could see the previous information given to you, much of which was excellent.

For the benefit of those who have missed it the thread is at
https://community.ricksteves.com/travel-forum/england/question-about-railway-from-windsor-to-london

On the face of it there can be quite a degree of confusion but the best way to eat an elephant is one bite at a time.

So I, and I am sure others after I run up to bed in a minute, will attempt to reduce this to bite-sized morsels.

You have a fair bit of knowledge but some of it is a bit confused.

To go to tourist attractions from Windsor you need to use a train to get to London, and then because all the main line train stations are in an elongated circle around the tourist attractions, you need to change onto Underground trains - like subway trains in North America (I would relate it to where you live but your profile gives no hint) - and onto buses.

The buses and the trains are privatised and run under government "guidance". The Underground also has a degree of semi failed privatisation and are very tightly run by London government.

All that means a degree of confusion to the poor passenger.

All central London buses look superficially nearly the same, many double deckers, all in red, some old, some new, all with a big sign on the front and side with the number of the route and destination, and they all appear on the bus maps, and all appear on the Transport for London (abbreviated TfL) website https://www.tfl.gov.uk/ which is full of all sorts of information including lots of maps - which may be helpful to visual learning.

The Underground map is a stylized, not to scale, coloured map. It shows the general directions that the various lines take, and where they cross, but it does not show actual routes or how close various attractions are to the various stations on the surface. For example, the Underground map shows two adjacent stations on the Piccadilly Line, Covent Garden and Leicester Square, as about the same distance apart as many others. In reality it is less than 300 yards long and much quicker to walk on the surface than descend into the first station travel the 45 second journey and then trudge upstairs again. http://www.timeout.com/london/things-to-do/londons-shortest-tube-journey-1 But it is a great general direction finder, and every tube line has a different colour assigned to it which is reflected in the stations and the tube carriages themselves.

The two train companies serving Windsor from their individual stations (to their individual terminus stations in London) are run independently from each other.


I will give lots more information in the morning after breakfast including everything you need to know about ticketing ... trust me, I AM getting there.

Posted by
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If in his earlier post Nigel suggested you get a Travel Card from Windsor, then I think there's no need to worry about the Windsor station selling you the wrong one or selling you an OysterCard when they're not in OysterCard territory. Station agents may not be fool-proof, but they are your best resource as you travel and I believe that most are trying to help.

Posted by
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If you are going into London 5 days in row at peak time the choice is quite simple - buy a 7 day season ticket to London zones 1-6 and forget every other option you go through which seems to have come from advice orientated around people staying in London and you aren't.

The most expensive of these costs £92.70 but this allows you to travel from both Windsor stations. Each of you would need a passport photo. Half price for 5-15 year olds. You can sacrifice flexibility of stations to save a few pounds. These are valid for the 2for1 offers.

I have given the routes in your previous post. Windsor to London is quickest to Paddington even though it requires a change at Slough. However, Waterloo may be closer to your destination of the day.

If some of your days are off peak you may save by buying one day travelcards each day, but you seemed to be looking for early starts.

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I am hearing that Windsor is and is not included in the travel card, so perhaps that is where some of my confusion lies. I read this online
TravelCards
As Windsor is outside zones 1-6, a travelcard will not cover your journey there. However, there may be a small savings available as the traveler can purchase an extension ticket to Windsor; this would be the fare from the last zone in the traveler's travelcard to Windsor. You would purchase an extension ticket from either Paddington or Waterloo, and take the train from there. At this writing, the savings is £3.
and when I look up stations to use on the travelcard, I am not able to find any station named Windsor or Eton. I hope this makes sense. I am also reading about the London Pass with Travelcard, would this be a worthy option? Thank you all so much for your assistance.

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Windsor is not included in travelcards sold in London - but travel to London from Windsor on national rail can optionally include a travelcard for around London Zones 1-6 as I explain above.

As I suggested previously, do not continue to confuse yourself by reading about travel that starts from within London when you are starting from Windsor.