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Cautionary note: nonexistent restaurant

This is not to single out any particular business, but just a LOL or frustrating / disappointing note, depending on your POV. The lesson being that you probably want to check multiple sources if you see an attraction online that seems new, unique, and only known to "insiders."

A resident in the London suburb of Dulwich created an online presence for a restaurant, supposedly extremely upscale & exclusive, that actually doesn't exist. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/food/wp/2017/12/08/it-was-londons-top-rated-restaurant-just-one-problem-it-didnt-exist/?utm_term=.c913164d6d14&wpisrc=nl_rainbow&wpmm=1

Posted by
33994 posts

did you see his report on the Tripadvisor thread just last night?

That was done by a former Tripadvisor reviewer to show that so many of the reviews are fake. It worked.

So why is that frustrating, epltd?

Posted by
3124 posts

Thanks, Nigel. Maybe "frustrating" is the wrong word. I was trying to convey that as travelers, many of us love to discover new, unique, "insider" experiences, so it is -- what would be a better word? -- disappointing? to learn of an intentional fake. I've edited my original post accordingly.

Posted by
7206 posts

Another example of why I go to multiple sources when planning trips. A google maps drive-by or search for images helps a lot when checking places out.

Posted by
16618 posts

TA is lousy with fake reviews - for some things more than others - but it's not usually very hard to weed them out. One of the easiest of sniff tests? Have the majority of glowing reviews for the restaurant/hotel/attraction been submitted from one-time posters to that site? Bingo.

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Kathy, I certainly agree about fake reviews, and that's one of many reasons why these RS forums are so helpful.

What I thought noteworthy about this "Shed at Dulwich" restaurant is that not only reviews are fake -- the entire establishment is nonexistent.

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16618 posts

Yes, I know that . But fake, glowing reviews of restaurants and hotels that are, in reality, pretty bad may as well be for businesses that are non-existent. I'm guessing any "reviews" for that fictional restaurant were from first-time posters, and the only reviews those posters had offered up. That would have been a good reason to avoid it.

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16411 posts

I'm wary of reviews from websites that allow anyone to review. I was told by one hotelier that there are companies in India that are hired to post false reviews.

While I don't usually use them for reservations, Booking.com only allows people who booked through their site to post reviews.

Case in point....a new hotel is opening up close to where my brother lives. The early reviews are glowing. Only one problem--the hotel hasn't opened yet. (Although after reading some of the reviews, it's possible they confused that property with another in the chain.)

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5697 posts

Adding to the info on Booking.com reviews -- I get an email after every stay I book through that site, with a limited time to post a review. Seems like it would be difficult to post fake reviews without a paid (through booking.com) stay.

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16618 posts

Ditto to Frank and Laura: because of the review system described, booking.com is my primary go-to for accommodations.

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8322 posts

We have been traveling all over the World for the past 7 years, since I retied. I love to research where we visit, what we see, what hotels or B&Bs that we stay in, as well as restaurants we visit.

I have found that TripAdvisor is a very useful tool in that research, as well as other sources of reviews. However, I don't just look at the overall rating, I dig down into the reviews and in particular the negative reviews. I have found great deals on hotels that had a lot of negative reviews, because nearly all were written prior to the hotel's renovation. We stayed at one hotel near the airport in Miami that had just been renovated and our room was brand new and great. The price was great and so was the restaurant at the hotel.

TripAdvisor has a great feature that allows you to use a map for location (also hold the cursor over the location of the hotel for the price) that is great.

On Cruise Critic (we take a lot of cruises), I always post a review of our trip and cruise. I find other reviews for the exact same cruise that we took. For example, we recently did a great transatlantic cruise from Southampton to Miami on the Celebrity Eclipse. It was one of the best cruises we have ever had. The ship was great. We had a great group of new friends that we socialized and dined with. All of us loved the cruise. Yet, reading 20 reviews of the cruise, I found a couple that rated it very poorly. One said it was the worst cruise ever. Digging down into the specifics of those negative reviews, I found some very petty issues (in my opinion) that those reviews were based on. Still, sometimes I find that someone had a valid complaint for something that I have never experienced. If your cabin toilet keeps backing up creating a nasty odor and the cruise line doesn't fix it quickly, I can see why you didn't like the cruise.

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1682 posts

Creative genius. Never mind, there are many fake posts on this website, many of them entertaining. And Oobah Butler is his real name?

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409 posts

Well,

I just tried to get gasoline in Arlington, Virginia and 3 - three! - of the gas stations according to my Garmin GPS were actually fields of grass!!

Bizarre....

Susan
Expat living in Ireland

Posted by
3124 posts

Oh dear, Susan!

Are you sure you didn't ask Garmin for a "grass station" instead of a gas station? (kidding)

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Susan, 'next time' try gasbuddy.com; it's supposed to be a good site for locations and prices. We've all had similar experiences with GPS - I love seeing 'area of unpaved roads' when I know the roads have been paved for several years! lol