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Buying train tickets in England

I have been reading about Off-peak train tickets for travel in England. Am I correct in understanding that I can purchase a ticket for Off-peak travel at the last minute and get the same price as if I had purchased it in advance? So, there is no reason to purchase an Off-peak ticket in advance. Does this sound correct?

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You can get an Off-Peak ticket right up to departure time, yes. However, if you are able to pin yourself down to a specific train time in advance, you can buy discount advance tickets weeks or a couple of months in advance that are significantly cheaper than off-peak for most long-distance routes.

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2505 posts

the OP asked about Off peak tickets, and only Off peak tickets, so his/her understanding is correct

Advance tickets are an entirely different ticket category

Posted by
5326 posts

The OP doesn't ask about Advance tickets. The OP asks about off-peak tickets. There is no cost advantage in buying these before the last minute, but you might want a seat reservation on a busy service, which is possible even in off-peak times.

I don't think 'Advance' is a good name really since nearly all tickets can be bought in 'advance'; then again coming up with an alternative one word descriptor isn't easy.

The types of ticket are for the full picture:

Advance - Buy in advance, sold in limited numbers and subject to availability. These tickets are only valid on the date/train specified.
Off-Peak - Buy any time, travel off-peak.
Anytime - Buy any time, travel any time.
Season - Unlimited travel between two stations for a specified period.
Rovers and Rangers - Unlimited travel within a specified area. There may be a few time restrictions on when you can travel.

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32735 posts

And then there are two general divisions within Anytime and Off-Peak tickets, which are Day and period.

Day returns need to be completed before the end of the travel day, usually either 3am or 4.30am the following day; period returns usually are valid for up to 28 days on the return trip.

Not all ticket types are available on all routes and flows.

Posted by
5326 posts

It has defied 'sorting out' since removing some of the historical layers of complexity and discounting and regional pricing would result in some fares increasing significantly, off-peak day returns being the most obvious category.

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32735 posts

Yes, as Marco says, it is sometimes better to leave Pandora's box firmly shut.

Many of those deals that can be sniffed out are due to pre-privatisation history, and who sets the pricing for each flow, and various government interferences over the years.

If it were to be all rationalised split ticket savings would evaporate and the overall prices would likely rise significantly.

It is already considerably simpler than it was a few years ago, although we still have a few holdovers in names such as many people knowing Super Off Peak Period Returns as Super Savers (Super Off Peak likely would disappear under some rationalisation plans).

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32735 posts

renelmiller (OP),

is this making any sense to you?

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32735 posts

and about those Off-Peak Day Returns, mentioned by Marco. On many flows the single (one way) is only 10 pence less than the Off Peak Day Return. If rationalised, I can't see the 10 pence return lasting long....

Posted by
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Thank you everyone for your responses. Yes, Nigel, it is making sense. It has been over 30 years since we have travelled by train in the UK and, at that time, we just bought the tickets when we were ready to travel. I have looked up the trips we are interested in and the prices for the Off-peak trains seem to be much less than the other trains. Our trip is in just over 5 weeks, so we may have already missed the best prices for advance purchase tickets. If the Off-peak prices won't go up, it would give us more flexibility to purchase them when we are ready to go.