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Back from trip, thanks for the help and a few tips for those still planning

Just got back from our trip to London. Overall, it was a good trip and we were able to see everything on our must-see list. We did have a few glitches, especially in the beginning so I thought I would share some of my thoughts.

We arrived around the time of the tube bombing. We were out and around and didn't realize what had taken place until later. We had planned on using my husband's phone on a international plan through his work phone. Had bought a giffgaff sim for my phone. Short version, neither phone worked and by the time we realized there was a bombing incident, my mother was worried sick because we had not been able to contact her. We had to sign up for Viber to finally call her and let her know we were okay. Took three days to sort out the problem with my husband's phone, never got my giffgaff to work. In the meantime we somehow got separated from one another at a market without a plan to meet up and had some panicked moments. So my advice: have a back-up plan if you may need to contact someone in the States, and always have a plan where you will meet if you get separated.

We took two cards that did not charge international transaction fees, Sams Club Mastercard and Capital One Visa contactless. Even though I had made sure I had a pin number that would work overseas, always got a message that I had to sign. Once I found out how easy it was to use the contactless, we started using that one. (Also like Capital One better for a few other reasons, including customer service.) I had called and requested a contactless from Capital One about a month before my credit card was due to be renewed.

We stayed at a Premier Inn and were very pleased. Much like a hotel in the States, though no washcloths, which I had expected. There were no outlets in bathroom, but very good lighting. Very clean and felt very secure. Continental breakfast had wide variety of items.

Did get some of the chocolates and clotted cream fudge recommended by others on an earlier post. Bought some to bring back, but our bag did get kicked out for extra security search. Evidently others have had that experience bringing chocolates back, but not all.

We used Blackberry airport service from airport. My advice: If you have not been to London, or are not used to using public transport, use the airport transfer. Definitely worth it. If, after seeing how everything works, you can decide whether to use the airport car service or public transfer going back to airport.

A thought for those who are concerned about what to wear in London. Unless you are planning to visit an upscale establishment, just take a few rides on the tube. Okay now, are you really still concerned about what you are wearing? Wear pajamas, wear a tux, nobody is going to blink an eye.

Thanks again to all those who helped us plan our trip!

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Thanks for the report! You gave some really good tips. I'm glad you're OK.

We leave for London in three weeks and we're getting very excited. I have to tuck a week long business trip in before then. Ugh.
It turns out that we'll be there the week of celebrating St. James the Confessor and the establishment of Westminster Abbey. As good Episcopalians this will be a special treat for us. We are staying a 10 minute walk away.

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But how was the play Mrs Lincoln?

Besides the glitches what did you enjoy about your visit? You said you saw all your must sees. Any favorites? Any Wow moments? Where did you eat?

Just curious.

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Claudia, as has been stated many times, what interests one person may not another. I asked my husband what he thought was the highlight of the trip, and he felt, as I did, there was not something that stood out above all others. I think for myself, just being in London and seeing things I have watched and read about for years is what stood out the most. I think it will add to the next book, movie, or news item I see to have actually been there. Even seeing the response, or lack thereof, to the bomb incident. It seemed to dominate the news, but in the course of the everyday life no one visibly seem to be affected.

We went to Kew Gardens during Open House weekend. I had originally thought I would prefer to go through the week, when it was less crowded, but we had other things planned on the weekdays. I am so glad we went during Open House. We were able to take tours of the Tropical Nursery and Herbarium, which are generally not open to the public. Also took a tree tour. Really added to our visit, especially the Herbarium tour. To listen to those involved in the work at Kew, and hear their passion for their work really added to our visit. We spent the whole day there and still did not see everything. Although if we had not gone on these added tours, we probably could have seen some things we did not have time for.

We went to the British Museum. Very impressive, my advice is to hit the ground floor exhibits early or late in the day (or on weekends) to avoid hordes of schoolchildren. We also went to British Library, V & A, Science Museum, Hampstead Village, Tower of London, walked through Brompton Cemetery, Stopped by Spitalfields Market (where we got separated) on way to Dennis Severs House. Our delay caused us to miss the tour at Dennis Severs. Because of the timing, we decided to see the Mousetrap. Our expectations were not high, so we were pleasantly surprised. If you are an Agatha Christie fan, or love English Country House mysteries, definitely go. Otherwise, you might prefer another type play. Went to the Sherlock Holmes museum. Again, if you are a diehard Holmes fan, go. Otherwise, skip. Overpriced. One attraction not on everyone's radar: the Linley Sambourne home at 18 Stafford Terrace. Took the costumed tour which was presented as if by Mrs. Sambourne. As the Brits say, brilliant. Really glad we went, and would definitely recommend the costumed tour.

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I just returned from spending 5 days in London last week - 9/11 - 9/16, we flew home the day after the tube bombing. Because I am a huge Agatha Christie fan, I decided to see the Mousetrap - my friend had been a few years ago so did not go again - and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It seemed that the attendees to the play were very enthusiastic and I talked to one couple sitting next to me and they enjoyed it very much, too.
Seeing this was a real treat and I want to thank others on this forum who gave me advice about The Mousetrap.

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Failed to answer the question about where we ate. Picked up sandwiches several times. Ate Fish & Chips at Earl's Court Tavern. Huge portions of fish. Could tell the fish was high quality, otherwise pretty much like fish and fries I've eaten in the States. Nando's was definitely our favorite reasonably priced restaurant. Ate there twice, and would gladly have done so again. Went to Trevi's Italian Tiramisu in South Kensington because my husband loves tiramisu. Very good and authentic Italian tiramisu and pastries.

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Re: no wash cloths in hotel. The only time I have seen them in Europe is in a US chain hotel. They are not usually found in European hotels nor is conditioner.

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We took two cards that did not charge international transaction fees,
Sams Club Mastercard and Capital One Visa contactless. Even though I
had made sure I had a pin number that would work overseas, always got
a message that I had to sign.

Chip and signature cards even when you have an active pin can require signature. I have a chip/signature Visa Travel rewards card that I also use as a contactless card by adding it to Apple Wallet. If contactless is available, I prefer that.

Re: no wash cloths in hotel. The only time I have seen them in Europe
is in a US chain hotel. They are not usually found in European hotels
nor is conditioner.

The Corus Hyde Park hotel has wash cloths and conditioner. They're HQ'd in Hertfordshire.

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"we somehow got separated from one another at a market without a plan to meet up"

I am guessing this was Borough Market. The day we were there--a Saturday--Borough Market was very crowded, elbow-to-elbow with people. As we walked along, we had people mashed up against us on all sides. My husband and I held hands and tried to stay right next to each other, but we were almost pulled apart and separated several times. Huge crowd; hundreds of people there. It was even packed in the streets leading into Borough Market.

We agreed that if we got separated, we'd meet inside Monmouth Coffee shop on Park Street. Always have a place you will meet up in case you are separated. To anyone planning a trip to London, I wouldn't go to Borough Market on Saturday if you can go another day. Friday would be a good day to go.

Sounds like you had a good trip. If you think of any of the other cafes, restaurants or pubs you liked, please tell us about them.

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Rebecca, if that was last Saturday, September 16, I believe there was a neighborhood festival that drew a lot of extra folks to the area. It's probably not usually that packed. It wasn't unusually crowded for a street market when I visited it on the previous Thursday.

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From the link above:

Sockets are not allowed in bathrooms or shower rooms (apart from
shaver-supply units) unless they can be fitted at least three metres
from the bath or shower.

Why the exception for shaving electrical outlets if it's too dangerous to have an outlet in the bathroom? The exception appears to challenge the safety concerns of the regulation.

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662 posts

Shaver sockets are seperated from earth by means of a small isolating transformer, so are much safer than normal power outlets. UK homes dont have power sockets in the bathroom either, generally.

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Elsewhere in Europe I've sometimes run into bathroom outlets that I could have used for my rechargeable toothbrush except that they were located too high for the length of the cord, and there was no place to rest the charging base. I assumed they were specifically designed for electric razors, which would be held in the hand during use.

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As mentioned, shaver sockets use an isolating transformer:

"They use a so-called isolating transformer. Your body is connected to 'earth', through your feet. If you touch the live wire of a normal electrical supply you get the full mains voltage (230V relative to earth) across you and if you touch the neutral wire you only have a few volts (about zero relative to earth). With an isolating transformer, the wires are 'floating'. There is still the full mains voltage between them but they are both 'isolated' from earth. Whichever one you touch, only a tiny current will flow through you and its voltage, relative to earth, will be nearly zero - you will get no shock. The other wire will be at full mains voltage but, as you aren't touching it, you don't get a shock."

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acraven, thanks for that information!

I love Borough Market; will try it on a Thursday or a Friday next time.

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Thurs/Fri after 2pm is the best time for Borough Market. Was there this morning and had a lovely Sausage Roll from Mrs King's.

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Mike J, thanks! Good to know. And I will be looking for Mrs. King's.