After EU/UK 2nd wave rules, what would you do even if you could get there?
Still up in the air.
Still better than my (UK resident) chances of being able to visit the USA.
With the 2nd Wave appearing to now be hitting Europe, and with the EU and UK starting to add new restrictions, it doesn't look too good for EU as well as UK travel, does it?
. . . quite dim, I would say.
Yep...so it would seem.
Any optimists, and if so, based on what?
Second question is how does it affect the ‘air bridge’ between NYC and LHR that was discussed in the this morning?
Emma, your point is a good one: the real question is "what can you do if you got to England/UK."
(Emma, I also edited out my faux pas re the PM's role in this, thanks for the tips.)
As somebody who could take advantage of that “air bridge” between NYC & London, I have no interest in traveling to the UK anytime soon. I miss my visits to England.
Yes I completely agree with Emma. The new restrictions announced last night don't tighten the national borders any more than they already were tightened, but they do present more limits on what you can do when you get here (after your period of self-isolation). And the problem for us folks already here is that it's impossible to plan going forward. English schools have their half-term holidays coming up and there could be further restrictions announced that make it implausible to travel around the country.
If I were you I'd put any travel plans on ice and just enjoy dreaming/planning for the future.
What Emma and Davekatevy said. Even if you have the time and inclination to come here and deal with the two week quarantine (which contrary to some discussion in another thread really does mean not leaving the property where you are staying), it wouldn’t be a very fun visit. We don’t know day to day whether pubs and restaurants will remain open, the various sights a tourist might want to visit are closed or operating on a limited schedule by reservation only, and theatre in London is just shy of nonexistent. We are very much in survival mode at the moment. I’d tell anyone who asked not to waste their resources visiting right now and to wait till we are thriving again - it will be so much more fun! When that will be of course is anyone’s guess, but the government have been saying the current restrictions will be the status quo for at least six months.
I am being cautiously optimistic about a trip to see family in the UK for June 2021. I have built-in 14 days for quarantine, but I have fully prepared myself that this trip may not happen. I think the corridor from NYC to London is aimed at allowing family and business people a passage to the UK that does not require the extended days a quarantine would warrant. (which most people can't do with work commitments). I am fortunate that I get the summer off from my teaching job to extend a stay in the UK, but I just won't go if restrictions are still in place. If I was a tourist to the UK from the US, I would not plan anything until at least the end of April/May of 2021. By then I think we should have a good idea about the direction of COVID.
My husband asked me today when I would be willing to go to London next year, since he doesn't think we'll be able to go anywhere else. This is the same man who asked me, after our trip this March was cancelled, if I wanted to go with him to London this Sept. I told him that he wouldn't be going to London in Sept either and he got mad at me. Today I did say that I think Sept 2021 might be possible. (We have a lot of flight vouchers that we need to use) And like the previous poster, I don't think we should make any reservations until May.
Europe looks like it's falling off the cliff of the 2nd wave (to mix metaphors).
If so, a fair question becomes:
Even if you could travel there, why would you--what would there be for you to do that would make for an enjoyable, fun vacation, and justify the expense and effort of the trip?
Europe looks like it's falling off the cliff into the 2nd wave. If so, a fair question becomes: Even if you could travel there...
Would you really want to? Out of the frying pan, into the fire.... is what it is starting to look like
The pandemic seems to be worsening in a lot of places, so it's undoubtedly better to stay home where the rate is still relatively low. For example, France reported 22,591 new cases today and the U.K. another 19,724, which is a sharp contrast to the 4,042 new cases in Canada today (which included 158 cases in B.C. and only three in the part of the province I live in).
With mandatory quarantines in some places, a lot of tourist sites operating on restricted hours etc., and now a curfew in France, this is not the right time for a European holiday. It's safer to stay home!
I'll have to be content for now with travelling vicariously through TV shows and movies. The new season of The Amazing Race starts tonight, and I recorded the new Rick Steves travel show on Egypt and still have to watch that.
Europe's Covid numbers have now surpassed ours.