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3 weeks in England

We're planning three weeks in England starting mid September. It's our first time. What's a good itinerary? We plan on a week in London and two weeks seeing the rest of the country. The only must sees for us are the Cotswalds, Bath and maybe Jurassic Coast. We are all nearly 70, so steep hikes are out. Do we need a rental car or can it be done easily by train? What's a good neighborhood to stay in London and should we buy a transit pass there or is a taxi economical since there are four of us?
Thanks for any advice

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I think an RS Guide book will serve you well at this point, answering most of your questions. It's a bit difficult to suggest three week itineraries for folks one doesn't know. In addition, there are great resources here on the Forum-

Review the posts under England.
Review Trip Reports.
Review the RS suggested route in the Guidebook.
Reviews the route RS uses in his tour.
Check the related articles on the "Watch, Read, Listen" section here.
Check out Cameron's Blogs.
Join local Facebook groups which are especially good for real- time info.
Stay updated on rail strikes.

Once you've done some homework, and narrowed your interests, we can best help with specific questions.

Have a wonderful trip.

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I also think it's worth talking to your friends who've already visited England. What makes their eyes light up? If the Cotswolds, Bath and maybe the Jurassic Coast makes *your * eyes light up, then focus on London plus those two or three places - that honestly sounds like plenty to really enjoy the country, and not spend it moving from place to place. Also, unless some/all of you are highly skilled drivers, decide now to skip the rental car and plan to travel by train/bus. They have a great system. This early decision will also help you plan your stops and route.

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8322 posts

Need to rent a car to see the Cotswolds.
We stayed at the Volunteer Inn at Chipping Campden, it was nice.

Bath, we stayed at the Brooks Guesthouse and had seafood at the Scallop Shell.

Don't miss Stratford up Avon.

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No trains in the Cotswolds. Personally, I think that driving is more trouble than it's worth. f you want to avoid driving, where village roads can be very narrow and sometimes bordered by stone walls, you can always take a mini-bus tour (people here seem to like Mad Max), or, as we did, hire a knowledgeable driver/guide with a big, comfortable car. Then the parking is his problem, you can pick and choose which villages you want to see, go in the opposite direction of the traffic and crowds, and stay as long as you want. We found the Jurassic Coast dull, chilly and breezy, even in the summer, and you'd need a car there. It is pretty, though, and if you're big into dinosaurs, that's the place to go. If you prefer city activities, going there might be a waste of time. Check out jurassiccoast.org. What are your constraints for lodging in London? Cost, location, nearby restaurants? If hiking about town is out, I'd suggest prioritizing your must-see sites and base yourselves there. Taxis are expensive, but you are correct in that with party of four, the cost is often reasonable. The tube is well-signed (hard to get lost in), fun and cheap, too. (Lots of stairs, though, if knees and endurance are an issue.) I don't want to complicate the issue, but maybe do some more research. Three weeks isn't a lot of time. A week in London is a good start. Pick two or three others, and spend serious time there. Bath, from which you can do a couple of longish day trips to the Cotswolds, and York are both worthwhile. Keep in mind though, while train service is good, you don't want to spend lots of time getting from place to place. York is 2.5 hours from London and might be too far out of the way. The basic RS England/London guide/s will help you a lot with your broadest of questions. In addition, try the facebook pages, trip reports etc mentioned above. All of these will help a lot, too.

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5550 posts

We found the Jurassic Coast dull, chilly and breezy, even in the summer, and you'd need a car there.

And therein lies the issue with planning and the British climate. I've been visiting the Jurassic Coast during the summer and it's been glorious weather but I have the luxury of living close by and being able to decide whether to make the trip at the very last minute.

You also don't need a car, there's a dedicated bus service: www.firstbus.co.uk/adventures-bus/services/jurassic-coaster

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8131 posts

And, like almost all bus services in the UK, single journey fares remain capped at £2 each on the Jurassic coaster.

Also in the Cotswolds, bus services have been substantially improved. Partly because Pulhams (the main operator in the area) are now part of the much larger Oxford Bus Company and partly because the County Council have been funding enhanced services.

Anybody who hasn't looked in the last 12 months is simply not up to date.

It is very much possible to get around the Cotswolds by public transport, and there is also (very) new integrated ticketing.

The buses are timetabled to connect with the trains at Moreton-in-Marsh railway station.

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Keep in mind though, while train service is good, you don't want to spend lots of time getting from place to place. York is 2.5 hours from London and might be too far out of the way.

Several 2.5 hr train trips over three weeks is not at all unreasonable. We did Bath, Oxford, Edinburgh, York and London over two weeks and it was fine.

Edited to add: Especially when some are suggesting that the OP not drive.

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8131 posts

Nor is York 2 1/2 hours from London- it can be 1:45. more usually 1:52.

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Stay in Bath for at least 4 nights. You can explore the Cotswolds using a local guide or small group tour company such as MadMax. Many local companies provide more bespoke tours, so research online and find one that fits your needs. Bath is easy to walk around, but does have Uber if you need a short ride within the city. Some companies to check out

https://www.cotswoldsguidedtours.co.uk/. (I think they are already sold out for this September)
https://www.bestcotswoldtours.co.uk/. (friends took a two-day tour with Mark, and had a fantastic time)

I would suggest you book a private driver to Bath from Heathrow. Put London on the last leg of your trip. You can easily get to London Heathrow using the Elizabeth Line for your flight home. No need for a transit pass, just tap in and out using your US credit card. (Each person will need their own).

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1225 posts

I never expected to visit Torquay, but some other plans fell through.

Man, it's nice in Torquay. Very Mediterranean in feel. A great place to kick back and relax.

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Thanks to everyone who has taken the time to write a thoughtful reply - much appreciated!
Change of plans. Our friends want to go to Edinburgh for 3-4 days. We'd rather spend that time in England and meet up in York (if that makes the most sense)
Here's what looks like the two options:

  1. Heathrow>York>Cotswolds>Bath>London
    Is there an interesting place to visit for 3-4 days on the way from Heathrow to York?
    OR

  2. Heathrow>Bath>Cotswalds>York>London
    Is there an interesting place to visit for 3-4 days on the way from the Cotswolds to York?

Ideally we would like to base ourselves in one hotel for 3-4 nights per location and take day trips (Per your suggestions, we're trying not to rely on a car. We will hire a guide in the Cotswolds for one day and maybe take the bus the next day). We plan to stay in London for 7 nights.

Thanks again!

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Have you booked your plane tickets yet? If so what sort of time of the day are you landing and departing?

My kind of gut feeling is that it is probably preferable to aim for Bath rather than York on arrival day, then up to York and London. To me it feels like the easier, shorter option for arrival day.

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We land in Heathrow at about 10 am. We are hoping to find a location between London and York that will keep us busy for 4-5 days until we meet up with friends in York, keeping in mind that we will continue on to the Cotswolds, Bath and London. I had hoped to do the reverse and start in Bath, but my friends very much want to head north first.

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Perhaps you already plan day trips from York into the Dales. If not, or even if so, you could go to York early then do several day trips/tours---to the Moors and the Dales. More than enough either direction. Or, stay in Leeds and take tours to the Dales. (Are you All Creatures Great and Small fans?)

If you have interest in Richard III history, travel to Leicester, visit the museum with the location of skeleton recovery, rent a car and visit the Battle of Bosworth (and town) to the west.

Interest in cathedrals? Head east from Leicester about an hour to Peterborough. You could also visit Flag Fen Archeology Park which is about 15 minutes to the east. https://flagfen.org.uk/
About 15 minutes the opposite direction, northwest of Peterborough, visit Helpston. We had a lovely afternoon there, walking the village (an ancestor was born there) and learning about the Northhamptonshire peasant poet, John Clare. https://www.helpstonhistory.org.uk/