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Safety in View of Iran Conflict

I realize this is all fresh, and without commenting on any of the politics associated with the current conflict in Iran, is it safe for Americans to travel in Bosnia in view of the conflict? I had read that Bosnians had generally good feelings toward Iran in view of Iran’s support of Bosnia during its war, but that Bosnia has drifted toward the west in recent years. Are there likely to be significant protests or potential anger directed at American tourists this summer?

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Drifted towards the West? You realize its difficult to get any further west in Europe. Serbia may be what it is, but it is still Western and it is still Europe. So is the rest of the region.

Bosnia & Herzegovina (BiH) is such a complex place, it’s not one that amateurs like you and I will ever get right. You said that Iran supported Bosnia. Which Bosnia, there were three of them involved in the war. Iran probably supported the Bosniaks (muslims and about 50% of the population) who claimed to be the one true BiH representative. But then the Bosnians of Serbian ancestry, about 30% of the population, claimed the same. Then the Croats, with about 20% of the population had a stake in things.

Back to Iran, you do know that the war ended pretty much because the US participated in stopping the genocide of the Bosniaks by the Serbs. Not sure Iran did much besides cheer. Today there are three semi-autonomous regions in BiH. The leadership of the country rotates from one to the next. All laws require the approval of the Office of the High Representative which is an EU appointment. Yes, its that unstable.

The most disruptive outside influence seems to be joint russian and Serbian interference through their relationship with one of the three semi-autonomous regions, the Republika Srpska.

So, no, with what little I know and pretend to understand I am not worried about Iran. If the Bosniaks are close to Iranian people, they will be happy with the US, if they are close to the Iranian government they will ignore it and hopefully remember they have a country today in part because of the U.S.
But if russia is successful in Ukraine, it’s not inconceivable that they step up their meddling in BiH and Montenegro.

Would I go to BiH right now? Heck yes. Love it there. I am off to Montenegro in June; BiH, maybe September. Do it before it comes unglued again.

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Thanks Mr. E for significantly increasing my knowledge about Bosnia.

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I have a ticket on an April 30 flight to Sarajevo. I'm not remotely worried about what's going on between the US/Israel and Iran--as far as my trip is concerned, I mean.

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acraven, it’s not the war with the Iranian government that would affect BiH, it’s this sort of thing. I have been following it for years and I think it’s maybe the most under reported issue on the continent. Everyone is cognizant but no one wants to talk about it:

The UN has increased the number of peacekeeping forces in BiH, but what are they going to really do? No idea.

If you look at a map of BiH you can see that it’s impossible for the R. Srpska to withdraw from the country without there being a fight. Look at the map and you can see the issues. Support will come in from Serbia ….. through the Federation of Bosnia & Herzegovina to reach the Republic of Srpska. https://i0.wp.com/epthinktank.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/srpska.jpg?fit=1200%2C1153&ssl=1 Also not the area labeled “Brcko” is essentially a city-state. I don’t know how it leans in all of this.

Who is behind the mess? The russians and the Serbs. And lets not forget the russian backed attempted coup in Montenegro a few years ago.

It’s the only destination I buy trip insurance for.

But is it safe to visit? Safe enough for me for the time being, but one really should follow the news. The US State Department gives it a Level 2 so maybe I am over thinking it all. They would probalby give it a Level 1 except for the uncleared and unexploded land mines from the last war. Its a small country and if something were to happen getting to the border wouldnt be that hard.

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Mr É, I think you find that there were a number of countries, including the UK, who participated in the peace in Bosnia, including one of my friends.

Fine to wave the flag, but taking 100% credit is a bit much.

72 British military deaths and many more injured in Bosnia while they were working for the United Nations.

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No insult inteneded Nigel. The question revolved around Americans so the answer spoke to Americans and what the locals may or may not feel about Americans because of what America did or did not do. But you are absolutely correct and I should have noted such:

British forces were heavily involved in the Bosnian War (1992–1995) as
part of UNPROFOR and NATO, initially protecting humanitarian aid
convoys and later enforcing no-fly zones and conducting air strikes.
Over 10,000 British troops served at the height of the conflict, which
saw over 50 British personnel killed.

In addition there were 20.000 US troops and 30.000 from other nations. France, Germany, Italy, Canada, Turkey, Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Norway, and Denmark.

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I'm stuck on a train for a while, so more fun stuff:

The Serbian flag is three bands, red over blue over white and has the seal of Serbia on it. The flag of thr Republic of Sprska is the Serbian flag without the seal. Its all you will see flying in the Republic. Oh, Sprska is a Serbian word meaning "Serbian" so the translation is Serbian Republic. At the entry to almost all villages and cities they hang the flag vertical, so its the Republic flag going in and can be confused with the russian flag when leaving.

You know you are in the Republic when the signage on the highway has Cyrillic on it.

You know you are in the south of the Republic when you start seeing Croatian flags.

In the Federation you see the national flag.

You know you are in Sarajevo when you sit on a restaurant and the Muslims, Jews, Christians sitting around you are all laughing and enjoying.

Sarajevo was the victim of the longest seige in modern history, over 1,400 days. Not just a blockade of aid, snipers shooting down into the streets and mortar attacks which are now the Sarajevo Roses https://sarajevoroses.net/. Then therr is U2's song Miss Sarajevo. It was the video of that song then reading about the beauty pagent that took place in the city in the middle of the seige, that got me to want to go the first time: https://youtu.be/51DMGjup6h4?si=dpebPKCjpV-3OxLH .

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OP, I’m going to assume you’re asking because you or someone you know are considering traveling there this summer. If thats the case, then my response is simple: go to Bosnia-Hercegovina.

I’ve been traveling a long time, and concerns like yours get raised periodically (which is maybe telling in of itself.) Mr. E offers some great context and perspective here. Nothing is ever so black & white, “feelings” or attitudes across a population will cover the spectrum, same as here. It’s worth examining exactly where these concerns originate, and where our own “feelings” influence their truth and severity. It’s also common to attribute strangers with sort of a stronger set of beliefs than we ourselves have. It’s a truth that most people the world over are concerned first and foremost with their own backyard. Again, you don’t have to look far for people that are basically oblivious or apathetic to current global events.

In the end, if you’re wondering how folks feel in Bosnia, you should go ask them! I guarantee you’ll find some of the nicest, kindest people ready to share their experiences and perspectives with you.

And bon voyage acraven! I hope we’ll see a trip report from you and OP as well.

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I threw all that out, hopefull it sounds like I have no prejudice of opinion.

To throw something a little bit of positivity on the subject, the Bosnian (i believe he comes from Serb side of the fence) gentelmean that I go fishing with and the Bosniak guide that works for him; have both said in different ways that they last war taught everyone a lesson and it would never happen again. I had a Bosniak driver once that had a rather silly name. A name I dont think you will find in the Balkans. He said his parents gave it to him so he wouldnt be judged by religion.

A lot of good people in BiH. I have never once run into any circumstance that was hostile in any way at all. Always welcoming and plesant and darn right nice. Okay, there was a game warden once who decided to plant himslef over my shoulder and shout directionos in Serbian during a struggle with a 6lb trout on a 3.5lb line.

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Great question, and a very understandable concern. The short answer is: yes, Bosnia is safe for American tourists this summer, and the Iran situation is very unlikely to affect your experience on the ground.
You're right that Iran played a significant role in supporting Bosnia during the 1990s war, and that history isn't forgotten. But Bosnia's political and cultural direction has shifted substantially since then. EU and NATO integration are the dominant political aspirations, and the country has deep, longstanding ties to the United States, which played a crucial role in ending the war through the Dayton Agreement. Many Bosnians feel genuine warmth toward Americans for that reason specifically.
In practice, Bosnians are extraordinarily hospitable to foreign visitors across the board. Tourism is important to the local economy, particularly in Sarajevo, Mostar, and the national parks, and visitors are treated well regardless of nationality. In my experience, you're far more likely to be invited for coffee than to encounter any hostility.