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new zealand itinerary

hello everyone,
Im visiting New zealand in November for 4 weeks. I wont have a car so i have to rely on intercity buses and their schedules. Bellow is what I have. The biggest problem is that the punakaiki buses are infrequent so because of that I have to stay Wellington for 2 days (i would have preferred one) and have to stay in punakaiki for a full day (would have preferred nelson to punakaiki and punakaiki to franz josef on back to back days). Anyone have any suggestions on how to improve? And let me know if it's suggested to add an extra day for Queenstown, i've heard mixed opinions between 1 day vs 2

Thanks in advance for any help.

Day 1 November 16 arrive in auckland

Day 2 November 17 auckland

Day 3 November 18 Intercity to Bay of islands / Paihia I(2N)

Day 4 November 19 Explore/cruise

Day 5 November 20 Intercity to Auckland

Day 6 November 21 Auckland day trip to hobbitin/waitomo caves to rotorua

Day 7 November 22 Rotorua

Day 8 November 23 Rotorua to national park

Day 9 November 24 tongariro crossing day trip – national park to wellington

Day 10 November 25 wellington

Day 11 November 26 wellington

Day 12 November 27 Ferry to picton, bus to nelson

Day 13 November 28 Nelson to abel tasman day trip

Day 14 November 29 Nelson to punaikaiki bus

Day 15 November 30 punaikaiki

Day 16 December 1 Punakaiki to franz josef

Day 17 December 2 Franz Josef

Day 18 December 3 Franz Josef to wanaka (check how)

Day 19 December 4 Wanaka

Day 20 December 5 Wanaka to queenstown

Day 21 December 6 Queenstown

Day 22 December 7 Milford sound day trip

Day 23 December 8 Queenstown to mount cook

Day 24 December 9 Mount cook

Day 25 December 10 Mount cook to Christchurch

Day 26 December 11 Christchurch

Day 27 December 12 Flight home

Posted by
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I would recommend joining a Facebook group called New Zealand travel tips. It's LOTS of posting of possible itineraries and you'll get the feedback you want there I think more so than here.
I've been using it for my upcoming trip to New Zealand in March.

Posted by
126 posts

That's a really intense 27 days!
My main concern would be that some of your destinations are very weather dependent for their impact - Abel Tasman, Franz Josef, Tongariro. It's a shame you haven't got the flex to move things around to accommodate the changeable weather, which could make all the difference between meh and wow.

Don't know whether this would suit, but Kiwi experience bus could be an option? Or the itineraries may at least give some new ideas?

https://www.kiwiexperience.com/hop-on-hop-off-bus-passes

Perfect world, you'd have a car and then greater flexibility to tailor your itinerary.

Posted by
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well franz josef and tongariro i have a bit of flexibility.
Franz josef, I'm sleeping there two nights, and tongariro is meant to be done day 24 but i guess i can do it day 25 and go to wellington after and only have one night in wellington instead of two.
abel tasman is a day trip so that one is different...

overall what can i do? i could stay 2-3 days and the weather will be bad throughout. Even if i had a car, i'd still have to book hotels in advance so not thaaat much flexibility with adding days. Only a campervan really gives the flexibility, no?

Posted by
126 posts

I don't know the bus schedules, but I'd assume that there's not a lot of flex there either? Assume you've worked through that in terms of Tongariro crossing etc?

Would there be an option to strategically rent a car for a few bits where the timing is tricky? eg. Rent in Picton or Nelson and return in Queenstown? Then I'd travel Nelson to Hokitika (stop in Punakaiki, Hokitika Gorge), Hokitika to Franz/Fox or Wanaka/Queenstown (depending on the weather). I'd pick staying in either Wanaka OR Queenstown to avoid changing accomodation. More accomodation choices in Queenstown too, booking.com will give you lots of free cancellation options if you want flexibility with timing. Milford sound as a day trip is a long day, and would recommend keeping as a bus tour for this.

Personally, I don't really get the appeal of camper vans - super expensive to rent, plus cost of powered campsites, and fuel is currently $3+ a litre... But if that doesn't put you off, then maybe that's worth considering?

To give you an idea of the weather variability...where I am today it was 22 degrees (but there are wind warnings), it's flooding in Invercargill/Gore (bottom of South Island), and there's a heavy snow warning for the central South Island for the weekend! :)

Posted by
117 posts

In general, there's a lot more bus flexibility than I expected for a country that seemed so car-oriented. The only time real time that bus flexibility was lacking was with Punakaiki. Between inter city and greatsights, conncections could be found.

To me, it seems the lack of flexibility is not about bus vs car but about weather. If I'm reserving hotels/hostels in advance, aren't I lacking flexibility no matter what?

Posted by
126 posts

Yes, of course. That's why using flexible accomodation booking options such as those on booking.com might be helpful.
It sounds like you're happy with your choices and the possible limitations. Have a great trip!

Posted by
71 posts

I spent two months in NZ earlier this year - from mid February to mid April - and like you did it largely by Intercity bus. They were fantastic but, as you've found, it takes a little bit of extra planning around their schedules.

The one thing that stands out to be here is your jump from the North Island to the South Island: it might be worth looking for a flight to get from Wellington to Nelson, since the journey by ferry and bus is quite long and ferry delays/cancellations are incredibly common, which could leave you stranded in Wellington or Picton if you miss the bus connection. Flights are quick, reasonably priced and in good weather it's a spectacular route.

Regarding Queenstown, I wouldn't add any time unless there are specific things you want to do. It's gorgeous but I found the town overwhelmingly touristy (especially visiting right after I'd been in Wanaka).

Wellington was one of the highlights of NZ for me so I think your extra day there is a very good thing! There are amazing walks (the Skyline Track is fabulous if the wind isn't too strong) and Te Papa is one of the best museums I've visited. There are also good walking tours offered by the iSite.

Have a wonderful time!