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Japan, Thailand and Vietnam tour company rec?

Hello, wonderful RS community!! I was hoping to get some tour group recommendations for travel in the next year.
We have never travelled with a tour but feel maybe a small group would be best for a trip to the East.
We are active adults looking to go on a small group tour that caters to folks that are able to hike and/or bike (do some outdoor activities) and out of the box sightseeing. We prefer to have some fun experiences rather than just museum and temple hop.
For example, RS Venice recommended a gondola rowing class and we loved it. And we also took an RS recommended pesto making class in Cinque Terre that was a hi light of our visit there. As well as an electric bike tour in Lake Como that I would do again in a heartbeat!

Any recommendations of a travel group you have used would be appreciated!!!

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I don’t think you will find a tour that covers all three countries—-each is deserving of a tour on its own.

We have done small group hiking tours in Japan with MT Sobek and would highly recommend them. The Nakasendo trail trek was only 7 people, and the Kumano Kodo (a temple trek) was ten, so these are truly small groups. But they do not do cyclin. For that you could look at Backroads—-they offer both hiking and biking tours.

https://www.backroads.com/award-winning-tours/japan

They may offer Thailand and/or Vietnam as well but I didn’t check.

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Good info. I am hoping we can find an agency that offers tours in at least two of the countries, even if they are not technically the same tour. That way we can at least stay with one company even if we are on different tours.

Thank you for the info. I will look into both.

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Odysseys Unlimited has at least one tour that covers multiple countries. I think Road Scholar and OAT do as well. I haven't taken them, but they look interesting.

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I love this forum!!!!!! The help everyone gives is amazing and so appreciated.

Thank you all. I have some jumping off points now. :) :) :)

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Gate 1 Classic tours of Vietnam and Cambodia and Thailand include lots of walking between sites but no actual hiking or biking. And include up to 28 people. A few are “small group” tours either up to 22 people. But none are in their Walking Tour category ( which does involve some hiking).

https://www.gate1travel.com/asia-pacific/southeast-asia

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For activities like hiking and biking, I recommend using a dedicated adventure travel company that does true small-group tours (12-14 people max).

We like MT Sobek ( have used them for 2 Japan hiking trips plus Patagonia hiking and the Tour de Mont Blanc). I should have mentioned them earlier instead of the more expensive Backroads, but I didn’t because I was unaware of their multi-sport Vietnam adventure:

https://www.mtsobek.com/trips/asia/vietnam/vietnam-mountains-bay-multi-adventure/

This looks very similar to the Backroads trip for half the price ($3500 instead of $7000+). I have never understood why Backroads trips are so expensive. I realize they specialize in high-end lodging, but that does not fully account for the difference (and the lodging and meals we have had with MT Sobek have been excellent). Also MT a Sobek uses local guides (who have all been wonderful).

Here is the full list of the MT Sobek Asia trips:

https://www.mtsobek.com/trips/asia/

I did not mention them previously because you specifically requested biking, and as I said above I was unaware of the multi-spots option for a Vietnam trip. Also you said you hope to do 2 or more trips with the same company. But with that cycling opportunity in Vietnam MT Sobek would be my recommendation over Backroads.

Take a look at this Japan hiking trip:

https://www.mtsobek.com/trips/asia/japan/sacred-lakes-mountains-of-northern-japan/

For the less than the price of the Backroads Japan cycling trip, you get 12 nights in this wonderful country instead of 7 (looking at comparable September dates, the Backroads 7-night trip is $12.2K and the MT Sobek 12-night Sacred Lakes and Mountains one is $10.3K). I chose September as I would not want to be in Japan in hot and humid July or August.

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There have been similar questions about tour companies - scroll through the "Beyond Europe" section and you will see them, or do a search for "Vietnam/Thailand/Japan tour company" using the search bar at the top of the page.

I used Gate1 for a Bangkok/Cambodia/Vietnam tour and it was fine (big bus, though). You might also check the offerings with Adventures with Sarah or Imprint Tours (both companies run by former RS guides). Also look at OAT or GAdventures (has some multi country tours like Thailand/Vietnam/Laos). I suspect you will have a hard time finding a tour that includes Japan. I'd also recommend going to Cambodia to see Angkor Wat - really stunning and if you're flying all that way it's worth going to.

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This is all so great. We don’t necessarily need to bike, it’s something we enjoy but not a dealbreaker.
Mostly we want to have fun experiences that get us out and about instead of doing the same touristy stuff everyone does.
I have a lot to investigate here and I really do appreciate the help.

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With the amazing help of this group and the RS guides, I have planned our last two trips from start to finish. (Plus two Disney trips!) I’m ready to let someone else take the wheel. :)

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These are some of the cultural experiences we enjoyed on our two hiking tours with MT Sobek: sake tasting; a tea ceremony “ cooking class” (we learned to properly make the matcha tea, and it is more difficult than one might think); a group travelers’ blessing ceremony with a Shinto priest; overnight in tatami mat private rooms at a Buddhist temple, and option to attend morning chants with the monks; seeing a little rice shrine in a secret alleyway in the fancy Tokyo Ginza shopping district; lunch of handmade soba noodles in a countryside cafe where the proprietor, a national champion in the singing of traditional work songs in the forest, sang his award-winning logger’s song to us; and sushi-making ( hand rolls) at another lunch.

Also walking a forest trail with a charming and funny Shugendō monk and mountain guide, then meeting him the following day at his wife’s pizza/Thai food fusion cafe. Shugendō is a mountain religion, and the monks are free to marry and to work independently. Our guide Katsu is an experienced mountaineer and mountain guide, sponsored by Patagonia ( a very popular brand in Japan, we noticed). It was raining that day and Katsu wore a Patagonia Torrentshell jacket over his monk outfit. My husband and I both wear that same rain jacket, and I have a photo of the three of us in our Torrentshells. You can see photos of Katsu in his monk’s regalia, including one in front of his wife’s cafe in this blog I found on the web—- scroll down to the 2d photo below “Looking toward the Future” near the end.
https://blog.gaijinpot.com/learning-the-way-of-the-monks-in-wakayama-prefecture/

The following day, nearing the end of our Kumano Kodo trek and the most important of the shrines, we visited another shrine where the head priest, a friendly man who spoke good English, showed us around the room dedicated to the Japanese soccer team’s awards and momentos. The shrines in this area have as their emblem the yatagarasu, the magical three-legged crow, which led the mythical first Emperor to this place. One of Japan’s star soccer players is from this area, and the three-legged crow emblem is part of the national team crest. They come here to pray and send memorabilia to the shrine for display.

https://letseatjapan.wordpress.com/2016/09/26/trekking-the-ancient-japanese-pilgrimage-route-kumano-kodo/

We also did the traditional boat ride down the river mentioned in that blog.

I enjoy this type of tour so much because it is not just about “seeing”, but doing and experiencing these unique aspects of the culture. With the small group (8-10 people) and a very knowledgeable guide, we learned so much more than we would have traveling on our own.

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Wow!!! That sounds like an amazing trip. I can’t wait to dive into the blog.
Thank you for sharing. It sounds like the kind of trip we want to take. Lots of cool experiences.

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I recently did a tour of Japan with a company that specialises in Asian tours. They started out based in Australia but now have a base in the UK. www.wendywutours.co.uk They make flight arrangements individually for group members and were very flexible about adding on extra days/locations. If of interest, might be worth emailing them. (Although I'm based in the UK, I've not had a problem tagging onto a US company tour - so assume this works in reverse:)).

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Those Walk Japan tours look very interesting and are well-priced. We met one of their hiking groups at a rest stop along the Nakasendo Trail and chatted a bit. There were about 10 people, mostly Australian, and they seemed pretty happy with their experience.

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Another vote for Odyssey's Unlimited! They offer such well led tours!