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Help finalize my Colorado activities & lodging

This is my third and hopefully last iteration of Colorado trip planning questions, and you have all been a huge help. In the first, I asked whether to stay in one place or take a road trip. In the second I asked about a proposed itinerary. In this one, I am asking about proposed daily activities (such as moderate to easy hikes and scenic sites & drives) and lodging. As with the previous two questions, this one is based on lack of personal knowledge, so feel free to correct anything that looks funny or unworkable. I think the overall travel itinerary is pretty much set unless someone spots something really wrong. This is for a July trip with spouse and two teens.

I have accepted that lodging will cost more than I want to pay. By that, I mean that it looks like getting something nice will cost between $165 and $200 (at a hotel) per night. If anyone has any tips or tricks for mitigating the costs, such as with frequent flyer miles or Hotwire or Priceline, etc., please let me know. I am open to all lodging options. Hotels seem like the most likely option, but the idea of staying in a cabin, etc. on a beautiful mountainside is also appealing. Also, does anyone have any ideas about the most economical way to visit the various national parks below? Is there an annual pass that would beat the entry fees for each of Great Sand Dunes, Mesa Verde, and Gunnison for 4, or is the per location price better?

1) Arrive Denver late.

2) Travel to Colorado Springs & stay overnight.
A.M: (Previously Scheduled Activity)
P.M.: Garden of the Gods
Lodging: To be determined.

3) Travel to Pagosa Springs & stay overnight.
A.M: Great Sand Dunes NP (Drive through only).
P.M.: Travel time with a possible late afternoon/early evening spring soak.
Lodging: To be determined.

4) Travel to Mesa Verde NP & stay overnight.
A.M: Visit Mesa Verde NP sites
P.M.: Visit Mesa Verde NP sites
Lodging: Far View Lodge.

5) Travel to Durango & stay overnight.
A.M: Visit Mesa Verde NP sites (Is a day & a half too much?)
P.M.: Durango activity???
Lodging: To be determined.

6) Remain in Durango second night.
A.M: Durango activity?
P.M.: Durango activity?
Lodging: To be determined.

7) Travel to Ouray & stay overnight.
A.M: Million Dollar Highway/Ice Lakes hike
P.M.: Box Canyon Falls
Lodging: To be determined.

8) Remain in Ouray second night.
A.M: Grizzly Bear Mine hike (Anything better than this suggestion???)
P.M.: Visit springs???
Lodging: To be determined.

9) Travel to Glenwood Springs & stay overnight.
A.M: Black Canyon, Gunnison NP (visit canyon only???)
P.M.: Drive thru Colorado National Monument on way to Glenwood Springs.
Lodging: To be determined.

10) Remain in Glenwood Springs second night.
A.M: Hanging Lake hike
P.M.: Activity???
Lodging: To be determined.

11) Travel to Denver/airport area & stay overnight.
A.M: Vail
P.M.: I-70/Route 6 over Loveland Pass
Lodging: To be determined.

12) Depart Denver.

Posted by
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Regarding the National Parks Admission passes...there is the America the Beautiful pass for $80 a year. If anyone in your group is 62 or older they can get the Senior Pass for a one-time fee of $10 which will cover a total of 4 people. Just did a drive-by of Great Sand Dunes yesterday and it is $3/person.

You can go to www.nps.gov and look up your admissions to each park you plan to see on this trip or over the next year to decide if you come out ahead with the America the Beautiful pass.

I'm in Durango right now, having arrived last night. I didn't calculate the time very well from Colorado Spgs to here via Great Sand Dunes and with just a drive by there, leaving CS about 11. We rolled in here about 815. Pagosa Spgs is an hour or so east. It was pretty slow coming from Alamosa to Pagosa with truck traffic. However the pass east of Pagosa was gorgeous.

We did the steam train to Silverton today. I'm not particularly a steam train fan (have been on several over the years) &up and back (7hours on the train) was more than I enjoyed!! The scenery was gorgeous though.

Have fun!

Posted by
334 posts

There is a National Parks annual pass for $80. (http://www.nps.gov/findapark/passes.htm) I bought this one year when we did a grand tour of Utah's National Parks. Different parks charge different admissions, so check with the specific parks to determine if it is a good deal.

-- EDIT --
Oops. I didn't notice the previous response. Sorry to be repetitious.

Posted by
10344 posts

There is easy to moderate hiking at Garden of the Gods, many of the trails are relatively short and many don't have a lot of elevation gain.
The hikes at Mesa Verde start at a relatively high elevation, which makes them more strenuous than the mileage or elevation gain would indicate.

Posted by
1556 posts

The following may be useful if you want to hike into the Ice Lake basin

Assuming you are starting at the South Mineral Creek Trailhead at 9,820 ft.
The lower ice lake is approx. 2 miles in and at 11,400 ft - i.e. an elevation gain of ~1,600 ft
The upper ice lake is approx. 3.5 miles from the trailhead and at 12,280 ft - so an elevation gain of ~2,400 ft

A rough rule of thumb that is used in CO hiking is that a 'moderate' pace covers approx 2 miles and 1000 ft every hour. Hence assume about 2 hrs into the lower lake and 1 hr to return not counting the time you spend at the lake. I would guesstimate that a hike into the upper ice lake will take you 4.5-6 hrs roundtrip.

Do make sure to carry plenty of liquids and warm clothing as the weather up high will be much colder - on average in CO, the temp falls approx 4 degrees for every 1000 ft in elevation that you ascend.

Posted by
10344 posts

To the OP: You wouldn't want to under-estimate the strenuousness of a hike starting at 10,000 feet and ending at 12,000 feet, compared to hiking the same distances at lower elevations.

Posted by
2816 posts

Unless you really have your heart set on staying in Mesa Verde I'd suggest just staying in Durango - it's a short drive from the NP and would save you a day of relocating unnecessarily.
As others have mentioned, don't underestimate the physical demands of hiking at altitude. Stay hydrated. Slather on the sunscreen.
Personal preference here, but we did the Durango RR in May and frankly were unimpressed. Better to just drive from Durango north to Silverton - scenery just as beautiful (if not more so), plus you can take it at your leisure, stop when you want for photo ops, etc. and not be stuck on the train all day...which we thought got a little tedious after a while.
Red Rock Canyon is just across rte 24 from Garden of the Gods - some pretty walks there too.

Posted by
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I can highly recommend High Country Lodge, in Pagosa Springs, CO. They have both rustic, very clean cabins and hotel type rooms with breakfast included. There are hot tubs for soaking and loads of hummingbirds to watch. They are on Highway 160 just east of downtown.

We stayed a week there last summer and made a day trip to Mesa Verde. Their website is www.highcountrylodge.com

Posted by
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Thanks for the tips, and keep them coming. I have now locked in lodging on most of the first part of the trip, except for Pagosa Springs. My schedule has been slightly adjusted due to lodging. I have currently gotten 3 nights (including final night) through Hotwire, and I am happy with what I got, but good deals are rare on my itinerary. There were a few good leads on Priceline which lead me to get some lodging directly from the source. Lodging on Days 5 & 6 is at Purgatory Resort, 25 miles north of Durango. Days 7 & 8 are now in Telluride, not Ouray, which is somewhat of a disappointment but not that big of a deal. I am now considering what to do with days 9, 10 & 11. Possibly sticking around the southwest more or going up in the Gunnison, Buena Vista, Leadville direction and staying there instead of Glenwood Springs. Any ideas on where to stay in that vicinity, that would cut down on the second to last day drive to Denver? Is Gunnison worth staying at? Also, Is it worth paying an overpriced amount to stay at the Springs Resort & Spa in Pagosa Springs that has all the fancy springs, or are there better lodging/springs options there? (thanks for the advice concerning the lodge)

Posted by
1556 posts

Instead of staying in Gunnison, consider Crested Butte - great town and depending on when you are there the wildflowers could be fantastic. On your way back to Denver, you can drive over Cottonwood Pass (part of this is unpaved but driveable in passenger cars) rather than go back to Gunnison and drive over Monarch Pass.