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Going to the Stans? Or anywhere in Central Asia?

I decided to start a thread about the Stans because I am definitely going there in 2027 and I'm gathering up information now. Frank posted a thread a few weeks ago, but I didn't want to hijack his; hence this new one,

My first thought is whether to get a tour or travel independently. The more I look at the country and read about it, the more I'm thinking that independent travel is not that difficult there. From everything I've read, it sounds like the biggest issue would be getting the high-speed train tickets in advance on your own. I'm just not sure how I would like a group tour, and I'm always nervous about signing up for one. The last two I booked, I wound up cancelling, so I don't have a great track record at this point.

So to start, I was on AI the other day chatting with Claude. 😂 It pointed me towards this one website called Cavanistan that is just phenomenal. I can't believe the information that is in there. It's very well put together, very concise yet with tons of helpful info. It's also very clean, with no pop-ups or prominent ads. In fact, now that I think about it, I don't remember seeing any ads. They do run a few of their own tours, some multi-day and some that are just for a few hours, but not a whole lot. And they don't push their own products. It sounds like their main goal is to just get people to come to that area and visit. They obviously love it.

It was started by a man from Belgium and his wife, who is from Kazakhstan, and they have put together this plethora of research that is really amazing. I've only touched the surface of it. They also have a message board forum where you can have discussions with travelers who have been there. It seems to cover a lot of ground and has a lot of active participants. It uses the phpBB software, which is very easy to use.

At any rate, it's definitely worth a look, but be warned, I spent hours on it yesterday and could not pull myself away. There's just so much information. https://caravanistan.com

Getting back to my original thoughts, I would love for others to post here who have either been or want to go to that area (the Stans or anywhere in Central Asia) to get and exchange information. Thanks!

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Wow Mardee - what a great website you found! Thanks for sharing here. I have interest in visiting the region but no set plans or dates yet. But will keep checking this thread for ideas. Thanks for getting it started!

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It’s so interesting that Claude recommended caravanistan.com. I have recommended that site many times on this forum including in Franks thread but you may have missed it. That was my starting point when I was researching my trip many years ago. Obviously there is so much more info now and overall travel to Central Asia has gotten so much easier.

Enjoy the Stans

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Mardee, I have not been, BUT we are watching the current season (six) of "Race Across the World" on BBC right now. A chunk of the travel the teams are doing goes through the Stans with a final destination in Mongolia. While it won't have the depth of into the website you found does, I think if you have the ability to watch or see clips or even just find out where/how they navigated the area, it might help! I know the Wikipedia site has pretty good information on the routes taken in each episode. It has made me want to look more into travel there in the future.

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Mardee
Thanks so much for the website recommendation. As you know we are planning Uzbekistan for next year too! I must admit that it was the BBC’s Race Across the World that got us interested!

I’m also intrigued by Turkmenistan, but it looks a bit more tricky to do independently than Uzbekistan.
Jacqui

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Arnold, I must have just glanced over it and not seen it. And it wasn't a hyperlink, which is probably why I missed it. 😊 But it really is a great website and I'm glad to know that it was useful for you.

Joy, I'm very excited about planning a trip there. I hope you get there soon!

acher, thanks! I actually found a link online where they have videos of all of Season 6, so I'm going to watch them. It looks wonderful! https://dai.ly/xa9n8ga

Jacqui, I love that you first got the idea of visiting there from watching that show. I happened to be online one day and came across a photo of Khiva. It looked so fascinating that I started digging into the country and just became enamored of it. And I'm still going back and forth about Turkmenistan. I'll be curious to know what you decide about that.

By the way, there's another show/documentary called Dark Tourist that features Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan. It's available on Netflix.

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Mardee
I’ve just watched the Dark Tourist episode on the Stans. Fascinating in that as didn’t know that Dark Tourism was a ‘thing’. I’ve done a bit of what I’d like to call ‘history tourism’ rather than ‘dark’. I think if anything it put me off Turkmenistan! But still I will probably watch the rest of the series…..
Jacqui

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Jacqui, I hadn't heard of Dark Tourist either. 😂 I'm planning to watch it tonight so I guess I'll find out. I also have mixed emotions about that place. In one way, I don't really want to contribute to a very repressed government. I even thought twice about going to Budapest, although I feel better now that Orban is gone.

It just sounds like it would be a lot of trouble to get there, and I'm not sure I'm willing to commit that much time and effort. I was actually thinking I might take some time and visit Turkey again afterwards or before. I'll probably fly Turkish Air anyway, and I could spend some extra time in Istanbul. I think they have some kind of layover program that's similar to Icelandair. I'll have to check into that.

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Glad you can watch online, and thanks for the Dark Tourism mention--I'll have to add it to our Netflix list!

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I had intended to already have gone and returned to Uzbekistan on my own for a month, but due to a health blip and a review of their health care, I decdecided to delay it until I knew how future reactions would be. Health care there isn't as accessible as countries with 2 tier health systems for all my other countries visited.
I will say that given the limited easy to access cities in some countries of the Stan's, an for a few personal reasons, my balance of effort and reward meant that a longer emersion in Uzbekistan was my preference.
I belong to an Over 60 solo woman travel FB group and Uzbekistan in particular comes up as an easy solo DIY trip.
Caravanstan is a great resource as would be TripAdvisor forums.
Sovietistan by Erica Fatland was a dry but informative read that actually helped make my decisions for me of where to go. It's a tome, but as I got it from my library system and just kept persevering through it. It is also a little dated, 2014, so do keep that in mind particularly in countries with new political leaders and leadership.

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I have a friend who is there now (she is traveling independently) - I have long wanted to go especially to Uzbekistan, and her photos show how absolutely gorgeous it is. I guess I need to go to Cologne when she is back and get her to feed me all her tips !!

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Maria, thanks for the info, although I'm sorry you didn't get to make your trip. Hopefully you will at some point.

Kim, I hope you'll come back here after Cologne and share your friend's tips!