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First "Beyond Europe" Trip - Morocco!!

Hello all! I am hoping to get some info and suggestions for my fall 2016 planned trip to Morocco.
My itinerary at the moment is to spend about 2 weeks in Spain (accompanying my sister), followed by 2 months in Paris (the main reason for the trip), and in between is a week that I would like to spend in Morocco.

I have spent over 13 months total in Europe since 2009, and all of it was self-planned, without a travel agency or amongst a tour. Just me and my Rick Steve’ books and forum! But Morocco seems very different than what I have experienced, so I am a bit nervous about planning it myself this time. Can you help me?

  1. Considering I will have quite a bit of luggage since the entire stay will be almost 3 months, any ideas on how to avoid dragging it with me around Morocco? I would like to spend a couple days in Marrakesh, Casablanca and Fes. Would leaving the largest suitcase at an airport or train station luggage drop for a week be reasonable and safe (which would mean circling back to Marrakesh)? Or perhaps I should just stay put in Marrakesh?

  2. Does anyone have any experience with going to Morocco both with a tour group AND as an independent traveler? Which did you prefer?

  3. I'm not really overly concerned about safety, because considering what I have already read, I just need to use standard precautions (although I do plan to do more research on Arabic culture and customs). Also, I won't be traveling alone. HOWEVER, any suggestions or experiences from other female travelers would be greatly appreciated.

  4. What are these "riads" I keep reading about? Are they preferred over renting a flat?

  5. Any suggestions for a food budget for a person who prefers grocery shopping and eating at food stalls over restaurants?

Thanks for anything you can offer!

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Monique,
I traveled to Morocco from Spain this last October with my husband and a friend. We took Ryanair (Cheap!) from Seville and flew right into Marrakesh. We did our own planning and arranged for all our accommodations. Besides Marrakesh, we chose Rabat, Meknes, Fes, and Essaouira. We traveled by train and bus, not wanting to rent a car and was glad for that decision. We were there for 10 days, staying in riads inside the medinas.
Riads are very colorful and interesting in their designs. They are constructed with an open ceiling, usually 3 stories high, and a terrace on the top. Most of them we stayed in were similar to a B&B arrangement, but a couple we had all to ourselves, renting them through AIRBNB. We had originally planned to go to Casablanca, but after researching, we thought it not as interesting as the other cities. One of our most incredible experiences was a visit to Berber villages at the foot of the Atlas Mts. We hired a Berber guide out of Marrakesh who took us out for a day. We hiked to 2 villages and having meals with local families. They were extremely poor in possessions but wealthy in happiness. It was through Berber adventures. Jamel is the guide and is an incredible man. We did the "moderate walking" tour. He was very reasonable and easy to communicate with.
Staying in the medinas is quite an experience.If you hire a guide, they all are sanctioned by the government and they all have in their repertoire prearranged visits to various shop owners. They get some compensation if you make a purchase. You can barter if you are buying very expensive items....even offering half the price.
We never ate from food vendors and only drank bottled water, as we were pre-warned about contamination and becoming ill. Before we left home I had talked with a fellow teacher who had lived in Morocco for 2 years. She told me she was sick for the first 3 weeks of her stay there! We got hepatitis shots before hand and had antibiotics with us. This was recommended by our doctors. Even though we were very cautious, my husband and friend got sick. The only thing they ate different from me was a banana!
We did enjoy the national dish made in a tangine and Moroccan salads....which consists of about 10 different dishes of various veggies...delicious!
Each city had it's one special flavor. Marrakesh"s medina is wild! Some Moroccans won't even go there! The medina in Fes is probably the most confusing to maneuver the narrow passage ways. Young men lay in wait to help you find your way back to your riad ....of course for a price. Throughout Morocco there is a cafe culture that is men only. You will see men sitting out in the cafes and drinking their mint tea throughout the day, but never any women. Taking pictures of people without their permission or without offering to pay is frowned upon and can create a scene.
We gave ourselves a vacation within our vacation and went to Essaouira, a city on the coast that is frequented by British and European tourists. The medinas there are clean, open, and easy to get around. The trains don't travel there from Marrakesh, but there is a couple hour bus ride that makes it accessible.
Most likely you'll take trains and if you do, go first class. It's only a couple of durhams more but so well worth it, as you have an assigned seat. We learned that after our first train experience.
When we left Morocco we talked about how we would have done it differently. So in hindsight, we might not have stayed in every medina, but would have given ourselves a break from that intensity and stayed in the modern part of a city.
We took only a carry on as Ryanair charges extra for more luggage, so what we did was arrange with a hotel in Seville to store our other luggage for the time we were gone. You might be able to arrange something like that.
I would be glad to answer any other questions you have. Fran

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Would it be possible to fly to Paris and store your extra luggage there, then either TGV to Barcelona or cheap flight to wherever in Spain? I assume you'll have a lot of winter stuff for Paris which you won't need in Spain either.

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Thanks Felsworth for all your info! A lot of useful information there.
I was also thinking of renting via AirBnB (my go-to site for rentals) and noticed in the descriptions that some are considered "raids". Seems like it would be a good experience.

Flying into Paris and leaving my luggage which would include my items for the cooler winter weather might actually be worth it. My friend there is going to another country for 2 months and I will be staying in her apartment while she is gone, so I could just pop in and leave my luggage there.

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Did you bring this much luggage for your other trips? I have traveled for periods up to 10 months with one carry-on sized bag. If your last month in Paris is December, I would not particularly expect icy conditions, but would aim for flexible layers and rain gear (I got by with that). You can buy a warmer scarf, sweater, etc. when needed in Paris; if you're a pretty easy size to fit, then shopping in Paris could be part of the fun.

Casablanca is a very metropolitan city, without the depth of history and medina architecture that the imperial cities of Marrakesh and Fes have, so I would not make it a priority during your week stay. Getting to any village in the Atlas or nearby will give you a very different perspective. Your previous travel experience should serve you well in Morocco; you'll find some things the same and some different. Lonely Planet's Morocco guidebook is pretty comprehensive, as well as another contributor to this forum has (I believe) worked on the Rough Guide Morocco.

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@Laura - 10 months with a carry-on?! How I envy thee!! Packing "light" is a skill I have yet to master, although I have certainly made progress. I usually stay about 90 days on a trip, most of that time spent between only 3-4 locations, so I rent flats with washing machines. I can get away with a large suitcase and a small carry-on, like a small backpack or large purse. My issue with this trip in particular is the difference in weather I will find (southern Spain, Morocco and then Paris) during this time of year. But I am glad you mentioned layering, as that will be a good idea. I have quite a few bright colored cardigans which make for great layering and weather transitions, as well as break the monotony when you have a limited wardrobe.
I wear a size 16/18 US so shopping is not as easy, but I do like C&A and I have actually found a lot of clothing in my size at the many Guerrisols scattered around Paris. My next conquest while I'm there will be to find the Primark. It would certainly have chilly weather accessories at a low cost. It would be a good idea to devote a part of my budget to just buying those items when I get there verses trying to squeeze them all on a suitcase and take them over. I can just bring the basics.

I am leaning toward spending the whole trip in Marrakech, and perhaps doing a day trip somewhere at some point. I will certainly check out your suggested reading material. Thanks!!