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Thalys Reliability

Looking at ticket Brussels to Koln

I find Thalys much cheaper
but read alot about its reliability

Any thoughts?
This is for travel early Augist

Posted by
352 posts

I've taken Thalys trains a number of times and it's been fine...mostly on time, some slight delays, and one long delay due to an incident on the track ahead. However I manage my expectations and don't count on any form of transportation to be 100% reliable regarding arrival time. So just don't book any nonrefundable tickets based on a specific arrival time and you should be okay.
One tip: I always take food with me on the train - breakfast pastries, a lunch sandwich, etc., and a drink. I've been on various trains that were supposed to have food, but either the food car was mysteriously closed, had a long line, or was too many cars distant from my seat. There are good food options at Gare du Midi where you can pick up something for your journey.

Posted by
6899 posts

Much cheaper than what? Thalys is by far the most convenient option from Brussels to Cologne !

Posted by
6389 posts

Thalys is by far the most convenient option from Brussels to Cologne !

Is it really by far more convenient than the ICE? Personally I'd say that the ICE has a small advantage as it stops at Brussels Noord as well.

Posted by
72 posts

Doing a quick check for early August, it seems to depend on the train/class, but mostly ICE is cheaper.
I agree with Badger that the fact ICE also stops at Brussels Noord can be convenient.

Posted by
6899 posts

Oh, sorry, I was not aware that ICE were also running to Brussels (I thought Thalys was the only high-speed option on that route). In that case, ICE or Thalys male very little difference, so I would pick the cheapest.
I would avoid Brussels North station at all times if possible, though. High proportion of shady characters there.

Posted by
7306 posts

Of course a train change is extra effort, but note that all International arrivals at any of the three Brussels stations include the right (with the same-day International ticket) to one local rail (NOT metro subway) trip to the other two, runs many times an hour. I don't think I've ever been on a platform at Brussels Nord, but I don't expect any train station to be a warm, fuzzy, welcoming place.

Posted by
170 posts

if you have a particular train in mind, you can look up on time percentages for the last 30 days online- websited is called Zugfinder.

Posted by
72 posts

I think Balso and Nigel mean Brussels Midi (South) re shady characters. Brussels North is a much smaller station, and much easier to use than Brussels Midi. Brussels Central, despite the name, is only "central" because it is between the two other main stations (and is closer to the touristic center of Brussels), but not many (if any - would have to check) international trains stop there.

Posted by
6389 posts

Oh, sorry, I was not aware that ICE were also running to Brussels (I
thought Thalys was the only high-speed option on that route).

There are two high speed routes overlapping between Brussels and Cologne. There is both the Paris-Düsseldorf/Dortmund Thalys and the Brussels-Frankfurt ICE.

Posted by
1653 posts

ICE or Thalys also depends a bit on wether Köln is your final destination or not. If you are travelling Brussel - "somewhere in Germany" I would pick the ICE, as you can then get the whole trip on one ticket.

Other advantage of the ICE is that reservations are not compulsory, so you can use a pass on it, or get a flexible ticket.

Posted by
139 posts

I would prefer Thalys as I find the ICEs to be very stuffy until you cross the German border, and I've even felt travel sick a couple of times. I've seen some online suggestions that it's an issue with the air conditioning system not liking the Belgian DC electrical supply.