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Should I give Austria another chance?

Last year I had a terrible experience in Vienna. I faced rudeness from the get go. For example when I boarded my train from the VIA airport to Graz I saw that someone has taken the seat I booked. I politely told him that's my place but and he did move to the next seat but he acted like I asked him to sleep with his wife or something. He raised his voice and started shouting "Oh it's only for a few stations, Okay I will move. OK, OK, OK, it's just for a few stops!". He got off on Wien Hbf.

I'm sorry but this is not the Vienna that I remember. The Vienna that welcomed me in 2017 with the guy at the passport check (the very first person I ever saw in Austria) greeting me with a smile as I was arriving there to change to a bus to Bratislava where I found a job. It didn't feel like the same city where in that same year I went for a weekend on a solo trip and almost had a "Before Sunrise" story of my own on the U1.

More recently I had a good experience in Salzburg in 2023. I went to Munich/Augsburg for Oktoberfest but wasn't enjoying Bavaria so I decided to book a train to Salzburg. The moment the train entered into Austrian territory I felt it. It was like someone moved a switch and the colors of nature went more alive. Like they became brighter! I enjoyed my visit to Salzburg so much that the next day when the DB train to there from Munich got delayed I seriously had a nervous breakdown.

I remember walking down the streets in Salzburg and feeling "wow those streets feel so comfortable, so light, I feel so grounded". I'm into some woo woo so I believe each country and even each town or city has its own energy to it that either agrees or doesn't with you. Hence why I can't explain how the energy in Vienna suddenly changed, maybe something in me changed for the worse? Call me mad but I felt like I knew where I was going in Salzburg, it was almost as if I had a deja vu. Mirabel Gardens, the castle, Mozart's birth house - I saw them all without using a map, just guided by my feet and my senses!

Anyway, straight to the question. Should I give Austria another chance and revisit Salzburg? Maybe we really click better with some regions/cities than others? I generally prefer visiting new countries but I feel that something is not over between me and Austria. I constantly see Austrian airline planes, and once as I was watching one lifting off in Sofia to go to VIE I saw a dove feather fall from the sky from the same direction I saw the plane. Maybe I really should revisit?

Breaking down because the DB train to Salzburg is postponed for more than an hour and I didn't get a chance to visit the city of Mozart again might have been a sign I could find something more in Salzburg perhaps? Excuse my woo woo but it's important to mention.

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I can only hope no one judges where I live on the basis of a few rude interactions. Most people are polite and kind to others. A few bad experiences shouldn’t sour you on a whole country. I will say to expect to have the same experiences you had in Europe 9 years earlier may not be a realistic expectation. Tourism numbers just keep climbing.

I had a bus driver ream me out in German in Hamburg when I messed up the ticket purchasing process. He was loud and he was frustrated. I apologized and stepped off the bus as gracefully as I could. I found the missing ticket machine and took the next bus. First of all, in this case, I was the one who caused disruption on his bus. But even so, one person should never sour you on trying again. What if he had just been grouchy for no known reason? I still would have stepped off and tried the next bus.

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Austria is my second home, but I'm drawn to the Alps and seek quiet villages and great views. I drive my own car getting me to places that many travelers can only get with extended transportation (and obviously frustration). My German is good enough too. I would not quit Austria, just try something else. Look at the valleys in Austria. In winter you don't have to ski to have a good time. It's the stimmung/mood. My sweet spot is the last two weeks in June into the first week in July. Heaven on Earth for me. Something to look at: https://www.foto-webcam.eu

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Should I give Austria another chance and revisit Salzburg?

Only you can answer that. DO you only want to visit Salzburg, or do you want to venture to other places? What do you want to do or see? When do you want to travel? By all means, return if you feel the urge. But remember the old saying - "you can never go back again". In other words, dont make the mistake of thinking everything will be just the same the second time around.

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We have taken trains in Austria, Germany and Switzerland….and elsewhere. Salzburg is a favorite! Its how we travel. We have experienced similar situations with seating experiences in these countries…and with what you might call… rudeness. We usually back off and find another seat or will even stand. We go with attitude telling ourselves we are tourists and its not worth getting too upset about. (Most of the time we are treated kindly). These experiences have not stopped or deterred us from going back to these wonderful places! We have more trips planned there for next summer. Keep on traveling!

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Thanks for all replies, folks!
I think I might try to combine Austria with a brand new for me country as I often do when traveling to a country I've been to.
I'm thinking something like flying to Vienna -> train to Salzburg or some lake town in Salzkammergut -> fly from Salzburg, Vienna or even Munich airport to a Nordic capital. If I combine Copenhgane and Malmo I'll be able to visit 2 new on the same flight as I try to reduce the number of flights I do.
I was thinking to do the Christmas markets in Salzburg and then on to Copenhagen/Malmo but decided to travel in spring next year.
Which months would you say are best for Austria and the Nordics in terms of weather and evens? I'm deciding between March, April and May.
Would you say 14th February is too early/cold to visit? I'm generally interested in visiting open air festivals.

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If you are going in with the negative thoughts in the back of your mind, you will experience more of the same, real or not.

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624 posts

I love the places you hope to visit! We have only experienced them in Sept or Oct. Our weather was wonderful much of the time. I am not so sure about late winter or spring dates? A Christmas market would be lovely! Have not been there then.

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How do you know the guy on the train was Austrian?

I'm heading back to Salzburg and Vienna in December. Can't wait to go.

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"If you are going in with the negative thoughts in the back of your mind, you will experience more of the same, real or not."
That's not really have been my experience at all.
If anything I expected to fall in love with Munich after I've seen photos of it and felt a calling. I didn't like the energy there. The sole reason why I visited Salzburg is to see whether it will be as disappointin. aT that point I've lost all expectations and was prepared for the worst but the city delivered.
Same with Paris - with how popular it is I expected to be disappointed and I loved it.
I expected to love Veliko Tarnovo and it was pretty but I didn't feel particularly welcome. Meanwhile I expected Stara Zagora to be a meh experience and the city isn't very pretty but the people were the loveliest I've see anywhere in Europe.
I expected to hate Milan and love Pavia before going, the opposite happened - I enjoyed Milan very much and didn't praticularly find Pavia that welcoming.
I expected to love Madird and Alicante and hate Dublin, but the opposite happened - Spain was a disappointment mainly on its vibe and the people were kind of not really into me but Dubliners were like a breath of fresh air. I felt so calm there!