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Night Jet troubles!

Hi Austria forum

I'm thinking about taking the Night Jet train from Paris to Vienna on Tuesday 23/08. I can find the schedule but no tickets available. Am I too early or is it sold out?

Also, pricing is confusing. The website says certain prices in the selection area (I checked other dates) but in the cart the price is more in ways that don't seem to add up. We are a group of four: mom, dad, two 13 year old girls. We'd like to either spend the night all in one private 4 bed couchette compartment, or two private two bed sleeping compartments. Does anyone know the approximate cost of each of these options?

vielen dank!

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You're probably too early, but you can always contact ÖBB.

What does the website say? And what website are you using? I think we need a bit more information to help you with the price problem. But when I do a dummy booking for two adults and two children the cost is €350 in a four bed couchette compartment.

Posted by
271 posts

Thanks Badger.

I'm using the OBB official site, and it's showing me no tickets available on my date. I'll try a different browser, and if that doesn't work a VPN.

350 euro is not unreasonable, same as flying and you don't have to pay for accommodations that night ....

Posted by
21043 posts

But don't expect to sleep as well as you would in that hotel room you don't have to pay for.

Posted by
3197 posts

I can't find any tickets for 23/8 either so they are probably not for sale yet. But you could contact ÖBB and ask them if they know when they will go on sale.

Posted by
6869 posts

It's a 750 mile run from Paris to Vienna, and a 10 hour train ride. Do yourself a favor and see if you can fly on Transavia, Austrian Airlines or Air France to Venice.

I find it strange that traveling between those two cities (and from Paris-Munich) are somewhat difficult vs. travel between other major European cities. I'm only good for 4 hours on a train, and relatively few night trains are still running.

Posted by
8608 posts

Have you examined how many stops the train makes?

I am not familiar with the OBB site but it looks like the train makes 7-12 stops ( or more). How soundly does your family sleep?

It appears you could arrive and be in a sleep deprived fog for the rest of the day.

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271 posts

Thanks Badger, I'll check w/ OBB.

I do sleep poorly in couchette cars, even with help from big pharma. But seems like an adventure? The girl will probably like it.

But the sleep -- it would be 5th night of the trip, bad time for a circadian rhythm adjustment set back ....

Posted by
3458 posts

The general rule ( with exceptions , of course ) is that tickets go on sale about 90 days out , so you are way too early .

Posted by
271 posts

Steven thanks. I do have that rule internalized, but for some reason thought that because night jet was also accommodation, it would be different. Nope!

I'll wait, or fly :)

Posted by
2580 posts

Actually David, night trains are now all the rage. Started before COVID and is now coming back. Youtube is full of train vloggers doing overnights all over the world.

Posted by
12882 posts

Pre-Covid I took the OBB Night Jet numerous times but never using the couchette or sleeper options, still a very nice experience going from Vienna to Hamburg, Vienna to Kiel, or Vienna to Hannover to change to Berlin, absolutely no problems at all.

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I;m not certain that they have a 4-bed option on NightJet. Per person for a 2-bed cabin is €220. Add an extra €20 if you want a cabin with private shower & toilet. I'd do that, personally.

If you want to save, travel during the day. Slightly longer time-wise (11:30) but half the cost, at least. Sleeping on the train is not as romantic as it would seem. If you are 6' or taller you will be a bit scrunched. If you are a light sleeper, you will be up most of the night. You will see NONE of the fantastic scenery that is between Paris and Vienna, which is the biggest loss. The French countryside, the ride through the Alps - it is really a shame to miss all that.

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I;m not certain that they have a 4-bed option on NightJet.

They have.

You will see NONE of the fantastic scenery that is between Paris and
Vienna, which is the biggest loss. The French countryside, the ride
through the Alps - it is really a shame to miss all that.

Paris-Vienna doesn't really go through the Alps. It slightly touches the northeastern part of the Alps through Austria, during which part you'll probably be awake if travelling by night train.

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2580 posts

Nightjet is a very popular topic for train vloggers, just do some google and you'll find them. Simply Railway, Nonstop Europe, Man in Seat 61, etc.

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533 posts

Badger - while never taken the Night Jet from Paris, the several times I've gone from Paris to Austria it has always routed via Zurich, then ran ran straight through the most western part of Austria.

Posted by
1486 posts

The NightJet is the only direct connection between Paris and Vienna.

The connection via Zurich has only one change, but is about 2 hours longer than the connections with 2 or 3 changes which do not cross the alps.

Posted by
3197 posts

The route via Zürich is certainly very scenic, but the fastest route is via Strasbourg-München-Salzburg.

Posted by
271 posts

Thanks for all the feedback. I think we'll fly. There you get all the views at the same time 😜

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12882 posts

Very useful , if not advantageous that a direct night train line now exists between Paris and Vienna.

That is certainly very doable, saves me the trouble of having to transfer in Frankfurt Hbf when doing this Paris to Vienna journey. Absolutely good to know that the night train network is expanding.

I would take this Night Jet train route if I were over there in August...saves another travel day.

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12882 posts

Wien Hbf is indeed an attractive station, am well acquainted with it.

Very informative YouTube source on the new Night Jet. I've never taken a night train from Wien Hbf, only night trains departing in Germany, and it's interesting to see who these night train passengers are using this handy option to travel as they were on the way to board.

By expanding its night train network, OeBB is showing that this service is alive and well, and not at a loss for customers...fantastic
Wien Hbf is already a night train hub, even before introducing this Vienna to Paris night route.

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13530 posts

1) Six flights that day, mostly Austrian Air. Non-stop, 2 hours, starting at $63 https://www.google.com/travel/flights/search?tfs=CBwQAhooagwIAxIIL20vMDVxdGoSCjIwMjItMDgtMjNyDAgDEggvbS8wZmhwOXABggELCP___________wFAAUgBmAEC&tfu=EgYIARABGAA
2) 4 tickets on the train without the shower and toilet $1100 more or les (according to Marc).
3) 4 tickets on a plane $400 more or less plus 2 hotel rooms with showers and toilets = $400 for a total of $800
4) Trian = Romance (?), Plane = Efficiency.

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2580 posts

you forgot, train = save the earth (according to many)

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The best way to manage or limit jet lag is to target factors that contribute to it, such as the timing of meals and exercise.
Drink plenty of water while traveling and limit the intake of caffeine and alcohol.

Keep active during the journey by stretching and exercising.
Try to sleep when traveling when it is nighttime at the destination.
Use an eye mask to limit light and encourage sleep.
Adopt a sleep and time schedule appropriate for the destination as soon as possible after arriving.
Spend time outdoors, as natural light will help with the adjustment.
Avoid sleeping late in the morning and sleeping in the day.
Exercise to maintain alertness after travel.

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27713 posts

thanks clark, but your post is completely off topic. These jets are trains.

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2908 posts

4) Train = Romance (?), Plane = Efficiency.

Train: environmentally friendlier. Plane: much less environmentally friendly. So train is a better cost value in the end (hopefully not the end).

I would love to take this Nightjet train and hope to do a lot more night trains in the future... sigh

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There isn't much I can do in dealing with the moral question of limiting my carbon footprint.

Since train travel helps in that regard, all the better, taking a night train solo especially this Paris to Vienna route with no changes fits the bill perfectly, ...no jet lag ( not interested in it, I don't get it anyway ), much easier to fall asleep on a night train than on a flight, environment friendly, and all that.