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Getting to Hallstatt from Vienna and to Salzburg via train question?

My wife and I are flyin to Europe tonight and we are excited as one destination, we are going to stay in Hallstatt for 1 night in 10 days time
However, there is one thing we are a bit confused and hope you can assist.

We bought a Eurail train 15 days out of 2 months pass and will mainly use to travel via train.

I have been hearing that you can travel via train or bus but we want to travel via train but a bit confused how it gis

We want to depart from Vienna to Hallstatt in the morning (arriving at 10am). When we typed to Hallstatt, nothing shows up and it seems like it goes to Attnang Puchheim and then we take a ferry to Hallstatt, is that right?

On the return trip, we are going to Salzuburh the next day. Again, when I typed Hallstatt to Salzburg, it doesn't show anything while the other shows that it needs to go Attnang Puccheim and then take the Hallstatt train station? This is kinda confusing for us.

Would you please tell me how we should catch the train? We plan to leave Hallstatt around 2pm. Your instruction and feedback will be appreciated.

I mean for other train trips, we have no problem with it. It's only to/from Hallstatt is the one that is confusing for us.

Thanks in advance!

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What website are you using??? Since you are using a rail pass, and don't need actual tickets, you can easily find the train connections on the German Rail website. It shows connections for trains all over Europe, not just Germany.

The train from Vienna to Hallstatt goes on the main line from Vienna to Attnang-Puchheim, where you change to a train that goes on a smaller line from A-P to Hallstatt Bahnhof via Bad Ischl. Hallstatt Bahnhof is across Hallstättersee (lake) from the town of Hallstatt, and you must take a ferry across the lake to Hallstatt itself (or you can stay on the train to Obertraun, at the south end of the lake, and take a bus to the south end of Hallstatt, at Lahn.

Going on to Salzburg, you reverse the process to get back to Attnang-Puchheim, then board a train there to Salzburg.

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Thank you folks

I was using Go euro website (which shows nothing) and also OBB app but interestingly, the OBB shown is different from what you shown me on the actual website and it shows more clearly for the final destination, I don't know why

I also heard that if you take the train from Hallstatt to Bad Ischl, then bus to Salzburg, it is more scenic and cheaper too is that true?
Do you think it is worth while to take the bus??? Because if it is the scenery, we might opt for the bus and also provided it is cheap what they say too though I am not sure how much?

Thanks

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I also heard that if you take the train from Hallstatt to Bad Ischl, then bus to Salzburg, it is more scenic and cheaper too is that true?
Do you think it is worth while to take the bus??? Because if it is the scenery, we might opt for the bus and also provided it is cheap what they say too though I am not sure how much?

The #150 bus route from Bad Ischl to Salzburg is more scenic than the train between Attnang-Puchheim and Salzburg.
The fare is €10.80 one-way. You will have to pay extra as your Eurail pass - which is a waste of money anyway - is most likely not valid for the bus.

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We want to depart from Vienna to Hallstatt in the morning (arriving at 10am).

You want to arrive in Hallstatt at 10am (being already in Vienna) or you arrive in Vienna at 10am at want to go to Hallstatt right away?

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Wmt1

So would you recommend paying the extra 10 euro for the scenic scene despite not including the Eurail pass?

Sorry we will stay in Vienna for 2 nights and will depart to Hallstatt early morning and hope to arrive 10 . In that case , how to travel via train and which station to transfer et
Thanks l

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I took the train there last summer. I would not bother (and pay extra for) a bus. The train was pretty scenic, and once you get there it's very scenic. Yes the train station is on the 'wrong' side of the lake but there is a ferry that connects with every train. You just follow everyone else who gets off the train down a short path to the waiting boat for a 10 minute scenic ride to the village.

I don't know why the Hallstatt station is not coming up when you search but if you use the official German or Austrian train websites it will. There are changes of trains between Saltzburg and Hallstatt and between Vienna and Hallstatt. No direct trains but the change is not a big deal.

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If you can get the Railjet at 5:55 from Vienna Hbf, you can get to Hallstatt by 9:24 with a single connection at Attnang-Puchheim. Or take the 6:25 from Vienna and change at Leoban and Steinach-Irdning and be there at 10:31. If this is for March 6, OEBB suggests buying seat reservations for 3 EUR per person as train is expected to be crowded.

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I recommend you do the train option--arriving in Hallstatt on the ferry Stephanie is magical.

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So would you recommend paying the extra 10 euro for the scenic scene despite not including the Eurail pass?

Yes, for going from Hallstatt to Salzburg I would. The first leg is by train. You could use the stop-over in Bad Ischl to visit this town, maybe buying a "Zauner Stollen", a famous kind of cake produced here.

Going by bus from Bad Ischl to Salzburg you will pass two other lakes (Wolfgangsee, Fuschlsee) and see a different landscape, and not the same you had seen already on the way from Vienna to Hallstatt.

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Always use official websites! Never use websites of ticket resellers like you’ve been doing. For travel in Austria, use the website of OEBB.

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Be aware that with a Eurail Pass, you can't use the frequent Westbahn trains between Vienna and Salzburg. If you board by mistake, you will have to buy a ticket from the conductor.

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Sam,
thanks for the input. That's what I also saw at first and thought of taking the 5.55am for 13th March as now it makes sense because when I saw on goeuro website , nothing comes up and it looks like OBB is the way to go to check

 Interesting , I wasn't aware that Westbahn trains is not included which I saw somewhere on Goeuro and thank you for telling me, I will ignore those

wmt1,

Looks like we have decided to take the bus as you suggested and go to Bad ischl for a quick stopover . However we planned to leave around 1 or 2 originally from Hallstatt , so will it be a bit late or is suggested to leave early ?

and also , if we take the bus from Bad Ischl to Salzburg , which side do you recommend us to sit for good scenic view? left or right? and also is it possible that if we line up the first line so we can sit the very front row so that not only we can see the window view but also the front/driver view as well!

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Chan,

It is up to you when leaving Hallstatt and how much time you want to spend in Bad Ischl on your way to Salzburg.

This is the timetable for the trains from Hallstatt to Bad Ischl:
https://www.oebb.at/en/dam/jcr:1d1c904f-9daf-475f-b7fc-af65df29c3c5/kif170.pdf
Don't forget to consider the time necessary to cross Lake Hallstatt by the ferry between Hallstatt town and Hallstatt train station. The departure times of the ferry are coordinated with the arrival times of the trains.

This is the timetable of bus line #150 from Bad Ischl to Salzburg:
https://salzburg-verkehr.at/downloads/regionalbus-150-salzburg-koppl-hof-fuschl-st-gilgen-strobl-bad-ischl/

As the bus originates in Bad Ischl it should be possible to get the seats you prefer when boarding first, but don't expect a nice line of waiting passengers. I would sit on the right side of the bus, so you should have some view of the lakes.

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I would second the idea of taking the bus from Bad Ischl to Salzburg. In 2009, I went by bus from Salzburg to Bad Ischl by way of Mondsee (SOM wedding church), and it was rather scenic. From Bad Ischl, I went on by bus to Lahn, which is on the lake about 1 km south of Hallstatt (I was sending the night in Lahn). Heading from Bad Ischl to Salzburg, you will pass Wolfgangsee on your right, but I don't think the side of the bus will matter much.

BTW, after my trip through the Salzkammergut, including some time to visit the Mondsee Basilica and the town of Mondsee itself, I arrived in Lahn late in the afternoon. I had time for dinner in Hallstatt, spent the night in Lahn, then spent the next day exploring Hallstatt and going up the funicular to Rudolfsturm. I spent the second night in Lahn and left first thing the next morning for Innsbruck from Obertraun, around the south of the lake from Hallstatt. I do not regret spending the extra time in Hallstatt; it's magical. I would recommend that you spend at least one night in Hallstatt.

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wtm1

Thank you very much for the link and info, I was looking for the timetable and you saved me!

Yes, we are going to 5 fingers indeed. We are actually staying in Hallstatt for 1 night and plan to arrive on the morning and leave around next late morning or lunch so that we can go to Bad Ischl.

The only thing we are confused is how to get to the top of 5 fingers and salt mine as we are staying next in Hallstatt next to the tourist information centre so i am not sure if it is an easy access to go there and also whether salt mine opens this month too as I heard they only open in summer or something?

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And I'm sure Westbahn makes plenty of money off of Eurail pass users as the tickets they sell on the train are actually cheaper than the daily average rate of a pass. Reason #238 not to ever buy a Eurail pass.

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My first time going to Bad Ischl as a day trip r/t from Vienna, I transferred at A-P.

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If you are going to Bad Ischl, I strongly recommend Cafe Zauner for a wonderful selection of great cakes.

https://www.zauner.at/english/

It is one of those Konditorei with K u K in their logo (sorry cannot think of the right word) - K u K standing for kaiserlich und königlich, representing the dual monarchy of Austria and Hungary). Emperor Franz Josef took summer vacation in Bad Ischl. In any case, one of my favorite Konditoreis in Austria.

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Thanks for the recommendation, I'll go there for sure the next time I visit Bad Ischi.

It was exactly because of the Kaiservilla that I wanted to see Bad Ischl in the first place as it was the Franz Joseph's summer residence. He wrote his speech, "An meine Völker" there in 1914 after the war declaration against the Serbs, complicit in the Sarajevo assassination. That part is shown in the guided tour, given only in German, of the Kaiservilla. What is not shown is FJ's war declaration against the Serbs written to his Foreign Minister not in German but in French. You're only permitted to see the Kaiservilla's rooms by guided tour, no individual room visiting.

They render KuK in English as "imperial and royal." and as you say in German, "kaiserlich and königlich."

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If you are going to Bad Ischl, I strongly recommend Cafe Zauner for a wonderful selection of great cakes.

As I said, buy a "Zauner Stollen". You can get it in different sizes in a sealed package for taking it home.

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we are confused is how to get to the top of 5 fingers and salt mine

The town of Lahn is about a 1 km walk to the south from Hallstatt on Seestr. along the shore of the lake.

There is the funicular that goes up to Rudolfstrum from which you walk to the salt mine.

There is also a bus station next to the lake in Lahn. From there, a bus, No. 543, goes around the south end of the lake to Obertraun, to the Talstation (base station), of the Dachsteinseilbahn (Dachstein cablecar) that will take you to the Five Fingers. It takes about 15 minutes to the Talstation.

You can also take the boat across the lake to the Bahnhof, then the train south one stop to Obertraun Bahnhof, then walk about 4 minutes to the bus stop in front of the station where you pick up bus 543 to the Talstation, but, with connection times, that takes a lot longer.

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The only thing we are confused is how to get to the top of 5 fingers and salt mine as we are staying next in Hallstatt next to the tourist information centre so i am not sure if it is an easy access to go there and also whether salt mine opens this month too as I heard they only open in summer or something?

If you are staying next to the tourist information center anyway, I suggest that you just ask there whatever you want to know.

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Thanks guys for the feedback
I am now in Prague and will be heading to Hallstatt for 1 night on Wed , however, I see the weather forecast that its raining/snowing which is a bit of shamed since we want to see the 5 fingers and salt mine. If that is the case, I assume it would closed?
And what would you guys recommend to do during this type of weather?

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A rain front will cross Austria during the night from Tuesday to Wednesday. In the morning of Wednesday it should have passed Hallstatt almost completely.

This is the most precise rain and precipitation forecast available for Austria, updated four times a day:
https://www.zamg.ac.at/cms/de/wetter/wetteranimation
At the bottom you see date and time. Homework: Try to spot the location of Hallstatt on the map. :-)

When you are there, inquire locally whether any sights may be closed to bad weather.